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08BANGKOK3374 THAI WEBSITES, RADIO FACE LESE MAJESTE SCRUTINY

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/04/2018

TAGS: PHUM, PGOV, KPAO, KJUS, TH

SUBJECT: THAI WEBSITES, RADIO FACE LESE MAJESTE SCRUTINY

 

REF: A. BANGKOK 3350 (QUESTIONING THE UNQUESTIONABLE)

B. BANGKOK 2344 (FURTHER LESE MAJESTE ACCUSATIONS)

C. BANGKOK 1949 (LEADING UNIVERSITY)

D. BANGKOK 1662 (LESE MAJESTE ACCUSATIONS)

 

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Classified By: ADCM Robert Griffiths, reason 1.4 (b, d)

 

Summary and Comment

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1. (C) The Information and Communications Technology (ICT)

Ministry and the Ministry of Interior (MOI) joined recent

Army and Police efforts against lese majeste in late October.

The ICT Ministry sought the cooperation of website editors

in self-censoring content and announced an effort to create

an expensive gateway to filter anti-monarchy postings. The

MOI directed provincial governors to monitor leaflets and

community radio stations for anti-monarchy material. Online

posters and editors skirt the limits of lese majeste by using

euphemisms to refer to members of royal family. Note: This

cable is the second in a series of three looking at lese

majeste, or offense to the monarchy, at a time at which

increasing attention is being paid to the institution and its

future. Ref A examined public reaction to recent

controversial moves by the Queen and response by the army and

police; septel will provide an update on a number of high

profile lese majeste cases.

 

2. (C) Comment: The recent move by the ICT Ministry to

further scrutinize anti-monarchy Internet chatter reflects a

government response to perceived more widespread criticism of

the royal family, particularly of the Queen (ref A).

Operators of websites and other online media are increasingly

concerned about measures the RTG might take against them and

are self-censoring site content to pre-empt future lese

majeste charges. As a result, critics of the monarchy are

finding less open space to voice their opinions, even

anonymously — precisely what defenders of the monarchy

intend through more aggressive implementation of lese

majeste. End Summary and Comment.

 

Ministries on the Alert for Lese Majeste…

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3. (SBU) Ministry of Interior Permanent Secretary Phiraphon

Traithotsawit on October 26 directed all provincial governors

to monitor community radios and leaflets. Phiraphon urged

governors to prevent any negative action against the

monarchy. ICT Minister Mun Patanotai told the press on

October 28 that he was considering spending between $2.9

million and $14.6 million to build a \”gateway\” to monitor and

block anti-monarchy websites. In a press statement, Mun

refused to reveal the offensive sites, explaining that doing

so would encourage visitors to the sites.

 

…Ask websites to Self-Censor…

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4. (C) The ICT Ministry, the Communications Authority of

Thailand (CAT), and the Royal Thai Police (RTP) assembled

website managers of SameSky.com, Prachathai.com, Pantip.com,

Serithai.com, Chuphong.com, and nine other sites on October

30 to request their cooperation in monitoring website content

critical of the monarchy. A XXXXXXXXXXXX representative said

authorities asked website owners to be \”cautious and

watchful\” about content posted to their sites, urging them to

use their own judgment to determine whether or not content

was appropriate. Ministry officials warned that the RTG

would monitor content and would instruct the webmasters to

delete inappropriate content; government officials reminded

the website owners that the 2007 Computer Crime Act (CCA)

permits police to enforce Internet censorship.

 

5. (C) Reaction of those in attendance was mixed.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX told

us on November 7 that a XXXXXXXXX employee had asserted to

ICT Ministry staff that website managers may not share the

views of people who post to their websites. In addition, an

employee of XXXXXXXXXX complained that a recent court order

to block that website was based entirely on criticism of

Manager Media owner Sondhi Limthongkul, leader of the

anti-government People\’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD), and

 

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had nothing to do with the royal family. XXXXXXXXXXX saw a

positive side to the meeting, however, noting XXXX now had a

contact point at the ICT Ministry, and her cooperation might

protect her somewhat from future allegations of lese majeste.

 

6. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX attended similar

meetings in the past, though not the October 30 session. He

told us that during earlier meetings, ICT Ministry officials

had required him to pledge: to co-operate with the ICT

Ministry; to delete any content offensive to the monarchy;

and to delete any content that is critical of any \”third

party.\” He did not resent the ICT officials\’ action because,

in his opinion, the RTG, military, and anti-government

protestors forced them to hold such meetings. XXXXXXXXXX

server is based abroad, and he remained confident that his

readers would be able to utilize proxy sites to circumvent

any future ICT Ministry blocks to the site.

 

…And has court orders in hand

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7. (C) An ICT Ministry official announced at the October 30

meeting that a total of 1,500 court orders existed to block

websites, and they were awaiting an additional 600 court

orders, XXXXXXXXX noted. (Comment: We presume that these

totals include orders to block pornographic websites and

others that may be banned for reasons other than offense to

the monarchy. End Comment.)

 

Euphemisms Enable Online Critique of Monarchy…

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8. (C) Articles on the XXXXXX website utilized the moniker

\”XXX\” to refer to the King, \”Mama Blue\” for the Queen,

alluding to her rumored ownership of a stolen Saudi blue

diamond, and \”O\” to refer to the Crown Prince, drawing from

the Thai word for his official title. XXXXXXXX believed such

thinly veiled references kept him on the safe side of a fine

line that United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship

(UDD) supporters have crossed in recent public comments.

\”UDD publicized in speeches, without self-censorship, what

has been spoken privately for years,\” XXXXX added, saying

that he would delete any UDD speeches posted to his site.

 

9. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX indicated XXXX

also relied heavily on shifting euphemisms to retain a

modicum of ambiguity/deniability. References to Queen

Sirikit \”went from \’Queen\’ to \’Q\’ to \’Mama Blue\’ to \’Fat\’ and

now \’Jie\’ (from the Chinese word for older sister),\” XXXX

explained.

 

…But Constant Vigilance Required

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10. (C) XXXXXX told us that after the 2006 coup d\’etat,

daily online visitors to XXXXXXXXXincreased from 1,000 to

10,000, and that the October 7 clash between PAD protestors

and Thai police drove an increase from 15,000 to 30,000

visitors. The surge in posted comments, similar to what

XXXXXX experienced (ref A), required significant additional

hours of \”eye-ball\” scans to purge their sites of potentially

offensive comments.

 

11. (C) XXXXXXXXXXX edited conservatively just \”to be

safe\” during the current political climate, using direct

quotes as much as possible and deleting even remotely

controversial content that had nothing to do with the

monarchy. XXXX request for assistance yielded 50 volunteers

who now worked in shifts to monitor the website 24-hours a

day; regular readers also alert XXXXX to suspicious first time

posters who might be provocateurs. \”We shouldn\’t have to do

this,\” XXXXXX added, calling the current climate \”a violation of

freedom of expression.\”

JOHN

Written by thaicables

June 23, 2011 at 1:01 am

08BANGKOK3350 QUESTIONING THE UNQUESTIONABLE? UPTICK IN ONLINE ANGER AT ROYALS AS THAI ARMY, POLICE ADDRESS LESE MAJESTE

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SUBJECT: QUESTIONING THE UNQUESTIONABLE? UPTICK IN ONLINE

ANGER AT ROYALS AS THAI ARMY, POLICE ADDRESS LESE MAJESTE

 

REF: A. BANGKOK 3289 (THAILAND IN TRANSITION)

B. BANGKOK 3080 (QUEEN SHOWS SUPPORT)

C. BANGKOK 2344 (FURTHER LESE MAJESTE ACCUSATIONS)

D. BANGKOK 1949 (LEADING UNIVERSITY)

E. BANGKOK 1662 (LESE MAJESTE ACCUSATIONS)

F. BANGKOK 966 (AMBASSADOR MEETS JUSTICE MINISTER)

 

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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason 1.4 (b, d)

 

SUMMARY AND COMMENT

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1. (C) Online and open public criticism of Thai royals,

particularly of Queen Sirikit, has increased recently. Army

Commander Anupong Paojinda issued a public warning October 27

that the Army would take unspecified steps against people

committing lese majeste, or offense to the monarchy. A

high-ranking Royal Thai Police official publicly referred to

32 ongoing lese majeste investigations by his bureau,

although the total number of cases in process nationwide is

greater. Pro-Thaksin activist Jakrapob Penkair told us that

he and others are actively seeking to shape perceptions of

the monarchy in order to facilitate transforming the

institution into a more ceremonial one after the death of

King Bhumibol. Two United Front of Democracy Against

Dictatorship (UDD) figures accused of lese majeste have been

detained for months without bail, causing several other

activists to leave Thailand out of concern they, too, might

be arrested.

 

2. (C) Comment: The Army Commander\’s statement indicates that

lese majeste offenses are not viewed simply as criminal acts

but as a threat to Thailand\’s supreme institution. The rise

in high-profile lese majeste cases, the frequency of online

remarks bordering on lese majeste, and the seriousness of the

authorities\’ response indicates that some segments of society

are highly dissatisfied with the behavior of some members of

the royal family, if not the institution itself. If the

authorities were to harshly repress critics of the monarchy,

this could prove counterproductive, as quiet discourse in

many circles could shift from mere gossip about some royals\’

distasteful behavior to a more weighty questioning of the

monarchy\’s role after the death of widely-beloved King

Bhumibol (ref A). Septel will provide updates on higher

profile lese majeste cases currently underway. End Summary

and Comment.

 

ROYAL BEHAVIOR TO BLAME FOR SURGE IN CRITICISM?

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3. (C) After Queen Sirikit presided over the October 13

funeral of a People\’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protestor

killed during an October 7 clash with police (ref B), public

criticism of the Queen increased notably. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX told us that critical

online comments posted XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX spiked, and overall

traffic toXXXXXXXXXXXX increased from 10,000 hits per day to

30,000 hits.

 

4. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXXX who has been XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

material previously published XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, told us XXX

spent much of his time cleansing XXXX website of content that

could lead to further lese majeste accusations, such as: nude

photos of the Crown Prince\’s consort, including video clips

of an infamous birthday party (ref C); multiple postings

ranting about the Crown Prince\’s lewd sexual behavior; photos

(that XXXXXXXX suspected to be digitally edited) of the Queen

wearing what appears to be a famous stolen Saudi blue

diamond; and multiple links to other sites with purported

evidence linking the royal family to the stolen Saudi jewelry

(ref F). To his surprise, people even posted comments

speculating about King Bhumibol\’s involvement in his

brother\’s death, some going as far as to suggest that

Bhumibol shot then-King Ananda. Posters also drew upon

Forbes magazine\’s recent report claiming the King\’s assets

topped $35 billion, decrying the monarchy\’s wealth as a

result of generations of extortion, and calling the upcoming

royal funeral of the King\’s elder sister as a waste of

taxpayer money.

 

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5. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (protect), subject of an

ongoing XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (ref D), spoke with us on

November 3 from the northeastern province of Udon Thani,

where he said people raged publicly against the Queen in a

manner he had never witnessed before. \”The Queen ripped up

the rule book when she attended the (PAD) funeral,\” he said,

adding that he remained uncertain how to incorporate recent

interviews into XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX without becoming the

subject of additional lese majeste investigations. Many of

the people he interviewed in Udon Thani complained that the

royal family had not devoted similar attention to three

locals (whom we presume were members of the security forces)

killed in recent violence by southern insurgents.

 

UDD SCRUTINIZED FOR LESE MAJESTE, WITH CAUSE

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6. (C) Jakrapob Penkair, discussing his lese majeste case

with us on October 3, said he expected to be convicted and

imprisoned. This marked a change from mid-August, when he

thought that legal action would ultimately stall short of a

court conviction. He described his current efforts as

focused on grass-roots education of Thai citizens, \”preparing

the way\” for eventual royal succession on terms favorable to

his political force. While others on the Thaksin team

focused on near term political matters, his efforts were

mid-term, using new media like the internet and old tactics

like whisper campaigns in small town barbershops and beauty

parlors, to frame the issue of the proper role of the

monarchy in 21st century Thailand. Jakrapob envisioned a

small, ceremonial institution as in Japan and Sweden.

Jakrapob did not hide his disdain for the Queen when talking

to us, and said that he was counting on her to overreach and

overreact.

 

7. (C) Suspects associated with the pro-Thaksin UDD are

receiving strict scrutiny. Police have denied bail to two

UDD figures, prompting two others charged with lese majeste

to flee abroad after police obtained warrants for their

arrests. Assessing the seriousness of the alleged offenses

is difficult since in most cases, no public records of the

offending remarks are available; any person or media outlet

that reproduces the offending content would also be at risk

for lese majeste charges. A credible NGO contact told us the

tone of UDD figures\’ remarks was unusually strong, showing

\”open vengeance against the monarchy, scaring everyone.\”

 

ARMY INSERTS ITSELF IN THE LESE MAJESTE WATCH

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8. (SBU) Army Commander General Anupong Paojinda warned Thai

citizens of the dangers associated with criticizing the

monarchy in a televised press conference on October 27.

According to an English-language daily, Anupong said, \”There

must be no cases of contempt or disrespectful acts toward the

monarchy. The Army will take action using every means

against any person or group acting in contempt of or being

disrespectful toward the monarchy.\” Anupong\’s remarks

appeared to be a direct response to the recent increased

criticism of the monarchy.

 

9. (SBU) Note: The Thai criminal code outlaws lese majeste,

but there is no legal basis for the Army to take action

against those committing that crime. The Constitution

specifies, however, that the King concurrently holds the

position of head of the Thai Armed Forces. The Internal

Security Act does provide that the Internal Security

Operations Command (ISOC), an interagency body headed by the

Prime Minister with the Army Commander as his deputy, is

supposed to, among other tasks, \”encourage people to be aware

of their duty in upholding nation, religion, and King.\”

 

10. (C) UDD co-leader Charan Ditthaphichai claimed to us that

most lese majeste investigations involving UDD supporters

resulted from the Internal Security Operations Command (ISOC)

Task Force 6080, which focuses on offenses against the

monarchy, reporting cases to Anupong, who then forwarded them

to the police. Charan stated that Army Chief of Staff

General Prayut Chan-Ocha, a close associate of the Queen,

manages Task Force 6080 by virtue of his role as Secretary of

 

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ISOC.

 

POLICE DISCUSS 32 ONGOING LESE MAJESTE CASES

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11. (SBU) In a rare public statement detailing police

investigations of lese majeste, Police LTG Woraphong

Chiewpricha, Commissioner of the Central Investigation Bureau

(CIB), disclosed to the press on October 29 that the CIB was

investigating 32 lese majeste cases. The CIB had forwarded

four cases, including Jakrapob\’s, to the Office of the

Attorney General (OAG) for further consideration. Of the 32,

15 cases originated from website content, and two resulted

from community radio programs. Our contacts believe that the

CIB handles only a relatively small fraction of the number of

lese majeste cases in progress; most cases are investigated

by the police unit that receives a les majeste complaint.

The CIB tally appears to exclude cases in which figures are

charged with other offenses tangentially related to the

offending statements (e.g., if a community radio operator is

charged for broadcasting without a permit).

 

PAD AND DEMOCRAT PARTY FUELING THE FIRE

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12. (C)XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX a professor at

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, claimed to us that the PAD seeks to

use lese majeste provisions of law against the academics who

provide intellectual leadership for the UDD, cooperating with

Manager Media staff to scour newspapers and monitor public

debates for lese majeste offenses by UDD supporters.

 

13. (C) Democrat Party MP Ong-art Klampaiboon told us on

November 5 that the DP had compiled a list of 29

anti-monarchy websites on May 20 and demanded that ICT take

further legal action. The Democrats, he said, also proposed

to increase the length of imprisonment for lese majeste

charges from the current three-year minimum to 12 years and

to extend lese majeste charges beyond distributors of

anti-monarchy material to include also recipients and

enablers of such transmissions. Ong-art also confirmed that

Democrat Party MP Phiraphan Sariratuipak had drafted a law to

amend the Computer Crime Act 2005 to focus on website content

that violates lese majeste provisions.

JOHN

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June 23, 2011 at 12:58 am

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จัดประเภทโดย: ทูต Ralph L. Boyce, เหตุผล 1.4 (b)(d)

¶1. (C) ผมได้เข้าพบพลเอกสนธิเป็นการส่วนตัว หลังจากเขาได้จัดให้กลุ่มทูตเข้าพบเมื่อบ่ายวัีนนี้ เขาคิดว่า การเข้าพบกันดำเนินไปด้วยดี (ดูรายละเอียดใน septel; ผมยังสงสัยอยู่ว่า เหล่าทูตจากตะวันตกจะเห็นด้วยกับความคิดของเขาหรือเปล่า)

¶2. (C) ผมเริ่มด้วยการถามสนธิ เรื่องการเข้าเฝ้าในหลวงเมื่อคืนนี้ ใครเข้าร่วมบ้าง เขาตอบว่า ประธานรัฐบุรุษเปรม ติลสูลานนท์ นำเขาเข้าเฝ้า และมี ผบ.สูงสุดรุ่งโรจน์ และผบ.ทัพเรือ สถิรพันธุ์ ร่วมในการเข้าเฝ้า สนธิเน้นว่า ทุกคนถูกขอร้องให้เข้าไปในวัง และไม่ได้ไปเข้าเฝ้าเอง เขาบอกว่า ในหลวงดูผ่อนคลาย มีความสุข และทรงแย้มพระโอษฐ์ ตลอดการเข้าเฝ้า สนธิไม่ได้บอกอะไรเพิ่มเติม

¶3. (C) กลับมาเรื่องปฏิกิริยาของสหรัฐ ผมย้ำกับในการสนธนาของเราเมื่อวันที่ 31 สิงหา ที่ผมบอกเขาว่า การดำเนินการใดๆ ของกองทัพจะทำให้โปรแกรมการช่วยเหลือต่างๆ เช่น IMET, FTF และอื่นๆ ถูกระงับในทันที ผมบอกเขาด้วยว่า เขาจะได้รับแถลงการณ์จากเราในไม่ช้า พลเอกสนธิบอกว่าเข้าใจ ผมยังเสริมอีกว่า การช่วยเหลือต่างๆ จะเริ่มต้นอีกครั้ง เมื่อมีการเลือกตั้งตามระบอบประชาธิปไตยเท่านั้น ผมยังย้ำอีกว่า ก่อนถึงช่วงดังกล่าว คณะปฏิวัติต้องพยายามทำทุกวิถีทางที่จะ โน้นน้าวให้ประชาชนเชื่อว่า จะให้มีรัฐธรรมนูญ โดยเร็วที่สุด คำแถลงของเขาวันนี้ เรื่องรัฐธรรมนูญฉบับชั่วคราว และรัฐบาลใหม่ที่จะเข้าบริหารงานภายในสองอาทิตย์ เป็นการเริ่มต้นที่ดี และผมได้ย้ำในประเด็นนี้หลายครั้ง

¶4. (C) สนธิตอบกลับมาว่า การกระทำของกองทัพ เพื่อต้องการปรับปรุงประชาธิปไตยของไทยให้ดีขึ้น ไม่ใช้ทำลายทิ้ง ซึ่งสถานการณ์ที่เกิดขึ้นหลีกเลี่ยงไม่ได้ ถ้าเพียงทักษิณแถลงต่อสาธารณะว่า จะไม่กลับเข้าีรับตำแหน่งนายกรัฐมนตรีอีก การปฏิวัติก็คงไม่เกิดขึ้น แต่การที่เขาเอาแต่คุยเป็นการส่วนตัว โดยไม่ยอมแถลงออกไปทำให้คนกลัวกันว่า ใจจริงแล้วทักษิณยังอยากกลับเข้ามามีอำนาจอีกครั้ง ทำให้กองทัพต้องปฏิวัติ แต่ก็ไม่ได้คิดจะอยู่ในอำนาจ และจะกลับเข้ากองกรมตามเดิมให้เร็วที่สุด ยิ่งเร็วยิ่งดี ผมย้ำ ผมบอกเขาว่า เขาคงถูกวิจารณ์จากนานาชาติพอสมควร เพราะการปฏิวัติโดยกองทัพ เป็นเรื่องที่ล้าหลังไปแล้วในสมัยนี้

¶5. (C) ผมถามว่า เขาจะยึดทรัพย์สินของทักษิณหรือไม่ เขาตอบด้วยเีสียงเรียบว่า ไม่ แล้วครอบครัว และผู้ร่วมงานอื่นๆ จะได้รับอนุญาตให้กลับเข้าประเทศหรือเปล่า ได้ โดยไม่มีข้อแม้ ชื่ออย่างเป็นทางการในภาษาอังกฤษของคณะปฏิวัติละ Council for Democratic Reform Under Constitutional Monarchy (CDRM)

¶6. (C) ทำไมกองทัพถึงเลือกทำปฏิวัติตอนนี้ เขายิ้มที่มุมปาก พร้อมกับโน้มตัวมาด้านหน้า ทักษิณอยู่ในช่วงที่อ่อนแอที่สุด แต่เราแข็งแกร่งที่สุด

¶7. (C) หมายเหตุ: สนธิดูผ่อนคลาย และใจเย็น เห็นได้ชัดว่าการเข้าเฝ้าเมื่อคืน เป็นจุดเปลี่ยน (Septel รายงานว่า ทัศนะที่แข็งกร้าวของทักษิณสลายสิ้น เมื่อได้ทราบเรื่องการเข้าเฝ้า) อย่างน้อยตอนนี้ คณะปฏิวัติเลือกทางตรงที่จะจัดการกับทักษิณ เราพร้อมที่จะติดต่อกับคณะปฏิวัติ และบีบให้พวกเขาร่างรัฐธรรมนูญให้เร็วที่สุด ระหว่างนี้ การปฏิวัติ ก็คือการปฏิวัติ และเราเชื่อว่าถ้อยแถลงที่แข็งกร้าวของสหรัฐ ที่จะระงับการช่วยเหลือต่างๆ และเรียกร้องให้มีการนำรัฐธรรมนูญกลับมาใช้ จนนำไปสู่การเลือกตั้งจะเป็นข้อต่อรองที่ดีที่สุด โดยเราจะส่งคำแนะนำผ่านทาง Setpel

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Written by thaicables

April 12, 2011 at 6:09 am

Wikileaks Fallout – Lesse Majeste Charges

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Source: Voice TV 6/1/11  http://goo.gl/pahNt

Prem, Anand, Siddhi Sued On Lese Majeste Charges

Gen Prem Tinsulanonda, Anand Panyarachun and ACM Siddhi Savetsila were Thursday sued on lese majeste charges.

Gen Prem, the chief privy counsel and former prime minister, Mr Anand, a former prime minister, and ACM Siddhi, a former foreign minister, were altogether charged by Red Shirt movement for alleged lese majeste acts which might have possibly offended the Royal Household.
Red Shirt spokesman Worawut Wichaidit, who brought up the charges to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva at Government House, quoted cable messages circulated by WikiLeaks as saying the highly-placed trio had discussed varied topics with former United States ambassador to Thailand Eric G John a few years earlier.
Mentioned during talks between Gen Prem, Mr Anand, ACM Siddhi and Mr John were Mr Abhisit and his predecessors, namely, Thaksin Shinawatra, Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat as well as former army chiefs Gen Sonthi Bunyaratglin and Gen Anupong Paojinda, among others.
Besides, they also touched on the Constitution Court, the dissolved Thai Rak Thai and People’s Power parties and Yellow Shirt movement, according to the content exposed  by WikiLeaks from the US State Department’s cable messages.
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Thai Privy Council feature in latest WikiLeak – but did they commit lese majeste?

Source: Siam Voices Dec 16, 2010

By Andrew Spooner

In the latest round of WikiLeaks’ cable releases by The Guardian a potential hand grenade was thrown directly into the maelstrom of Thai politics [because of Thailand’s draconian lese majeste laws no link to the cable can be given here].

The cable in question describes a meeting between former prime minister, Anand Panyarachun, two members of Thailand’s Privy Council – General Prem Tinsulanonda, the head of the privy council and another former prime minister and Air Chief Marshall Siddhi Savetsila – and US Ambassador Eric John.

If we believe that what is in the cable is an accurate reflection of the conversation between Ambassador John, former PM Anand and the Privy Council members, what will create the biggest shock is these three pillars of the Thai establishment’s candour and outright attacks and criticism of a very important person. As the meeting was on the record with a senior US Government representative and that the three men likely knew that their views would be passed on to other members of the US Government, one must pose question if these three could now be charged with lese majeste?

But by far the most shocking extract is when Siddhi talks of the succession. Unfortunately this particular comment by Siddhi is too explosive to refer to in any way here at this moment but suffice to say, if he did make the comments as described, then how could Thailand’s lese majeste laws not be applied?

Unfortunately most commentators on Thai politics know that when those who are deemed pro-establishment make lese majeste statements they are very unlikely to be face much penalty. Put on a Red Shirt, show any kind of allegiance to Thaksin or seek to create a more progressive and democratic Thailand, such as Prachatai editor, Chiranuch Premchaiporn, and you’ll face a hefty prison sentence.

In other parts of the cable the relationship between ex-prime minister Thaksin and a prominent Thai figure is also discussed –

“Prem acknowledged XXXXX probably maintained some sort of relationship with fugitive former PM Thaksin, ‘seeing him from time to time’. Prem, clearly no fan of either man, cautioned that Thaksin ran the risk of self-delusion if he thought that the XXXXXX would act as his friend/supporter in the future merely because of Thaksin’s monetary support; ‘he does not enjoy that sort of relationship.’”

Expect denials, expect all Thai media to ignore this and expect nothing much to happen to any member of the Privy Council or former PM Anand.

Yet, in the international media and community, where information flows more freely, a light is being shone directly into some of the murkiest corners of the Thai establishment. And there is almost no way that the full content of these cables can be prevented from being circulated in Thailand.

The long-suspected true conditions of Thailand are fully emerging – what happens next is anyone’s guess.

Written by thaicables

January 6, 2011 at 9:01 am

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