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05BANGKOK628 LOST IN THAILAND’S TSUNAMI: BURMESE MIGRANT WORKERS
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
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SUBJECT: LOST IN THAILAND’S TSUNAMI: BURMESE MIGRANT WORKERS
REF: BANGKOK 306
¶1. (SBU) Summary. The Royal Thai government (RTG) has
earned international plaudits for its responsiveness to
western tourists and Thais affected by the tsunami. Roughly
30,000 Burmese migrants, employed in construction, fisheries,
and hotels in three devastated provinces, remain marginalized
in official assistance efforts, however. Many survivors
appear to have returned to Burma or moved to other provinces
in search of employment. Significant numbers stayed, and are
camping in rubber plantations and forests, with little or no
assistance. Jobless, subject to arrest and deportation, this
population is at risk for trafficking. RTG estimates of
migrant deaths suggest about 250 – 350 perished in the three
provinces. NGOs believe 2,500 died in a single district
alone. Language barriers, and distrust of RTG officials,
means few of the Burmese dead will be identified. End
Summary.
¶2. What Happened to the Burmese Migrants?
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(U) Over 62,700 Burmese migrants are registered in Phuket,
Phang Nga and Krabi provinces, the three areas most affected
by Thailand’s December 26 tsunami. (UN and NGO observers
believe another 20 – 30 percent of resident migrants are
illegally present, suggesting a total population well over
80,000.) Of this large group, 23,800 registered workers (and
another 7,000 or so illegal) were in high-risk economic
sectors that bore the brunt of the disaster’s impact:
commercial fishing, construction and hotel staff. NGOs and
Royal Thai government (RTG) agencies reported many of those
employed in affected economic sectors, in shock and without
employers, wished to return to Burma. The U.S. NGO World
Vision, assisting destitute migrants return to Burma via a
transit center in Ranong (Ref), reported that about 700
registered workers returned voluntarily through the facility
until it closed on January 16th. Another 800 returned to
Kawthoung (Burma) without assistance. Others appear to have
fled to rubber plantations and wooded areas inland in Phang
Nga and Krabi. A local NGO reported that 3,000 surviving
Burmese, formerly resident in a Phang Nga fishing village
devastated by the disaster, are now sheltering in a forested
area nearby. About 320 Burmese families, including pregnant
women and children, reportedly fled to the hills above the
resort area of Khao Lak. On January 22-23, a U.S. NGO
provided the group with food and baby formula, which is using
plastic sheeting for shelter. Similar reports of migrants
living in difficult conditions have been received from Krabi
province. Although no estimates are available, a large
proportion of migrants are believed to have moved to other
inland provinces to look for new employment – a move that
legally has to be reported to the RTG Ministry of Labor
(MOL). To date, only 450 registered workers have requested
MOL permission to move, however.
¶3. The Thai Government Responds
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(SBU) On January 10 – 11, Laboff met with senior officials in
the MOL and Ministry of Social Development and Human Security
(MSDHS), the two main government agencies providing services
to tsunami survivors, to encourage increased outreach efforts
to affected Burmese migrants. MOL Deputy Permanent Secretary
Thapabutr Jamasevi asserted that registered foreign workers
“have exactly the same rights” as Thai citizens in requesting
job placement, severance pay and other benefits under the
Labor Protection Act. Similarly, MSDHS Permanent Secretary
Wallop Phloytabthim claimed that migrants received “identical
treatment” with Thais. However, Wallop acknowledged that
few Burmese migrants had approached local MSDHS officials for
assistance, speculating that they were “afraid” to request
shelter in an internally displaced person camp established by
the RTG in Phang Nga province. (That camp now holds
approximately 4,000 Thais.) MOL assistance is similarly
limited to date: an official report dated 18 January claimed
medical treatment at area hospitals was provided for 500
registered workers. Otherwise, services have been confined
to the voluntary repatriation of registered workers to Burma,
processing the relatively few requests to change to employers
in other provinces, and providing USD 125 for “body
preparation” services for four deceased migrants.
¶4. Widely Differing Estimates of Migrant Deaths
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(U) Several Thai NGOs that work with Burmese migrants
completed preliminary surveys of tsunami affected areas the
week of January 10 – 17. The Migrant Assistance Project and
Yaung Chi Oo Workers Association estimated 2,500 migrants
died in the hardest hit area, Khao Lak District in Phang Nga
province, where there were 9,800 (mostly fishermen)
registered. The NGOs developed the estimate by interviewing
villagers to determine how many fishing boats were lost; each
vessel was then assumed to contain thirty Burmese fishermen.
(Many boats had just returned from night fishing when the
disaster struck, and were beached with crew asleep on board.)
Other NGO reports offer limited snapshots of casualties: 200
migrant construction/hotel workers dead at Patong beach,
Phuket; 270 fishermen perished in Baan Nam Khem fishing
village, Phanga Nga province; “hundreds” more at another
nearby fishing village. Official RTG estimates are much
lower. Based on surveys of employers retaining registered
workers, the MOL believes only 255 were killed by the tsunami
(all in Phang Nga province), with another 200 missing in
Phuket. Of the missing, some are believed by MOL officials
to have returned informally to Burma.
¶5. IOM: Government Assistance Sub-Par
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(SBU) An initial assessment by the International
Organization for Migration (IOM) notes that RTG services to
migrants fall far short of those provided to Thai nationals
and western tourists in tsunami – affected areas. The January
10 report criticizes MOL efforts for focusing on registered
migrants, ignoring the thousands who are unregistered. For
those unregistered, quick deportations are the norm, which
IOM characterized as a “politically convenient” way to deal
with the alleged looting of damaged properties by Burmese.
(The RTG immigration chief publicly accused the Burmese
workers as “preying” on local Thais in wake of the disaster.
Isolated cases of looting, in reality mostly perpetrated by
Thais, were quickly blamed on migrants and the charge was
widely believed.) Public health services are poor: by
January 11, only 29 registered migrants had received
treatment in Phanga Nga provincial hospital, which has seen
over 620 tsunami patients since December 26. An attempt by
NGO health workers to assess migrant health needs at one
fishing village was met by violence on January 12, when Thai
villagers imprisoned three Burmese staff of World Vision, and
beat one Thai. (The villagers mistakenly believed the health
team intended to repatriate the migrants, for whom fishing
boat owners had paid registration fees.) Health and
sanitation outreach to the large numbers living in forests
and rubber plantations, and to those workers not registered,
is currently limited or non-existent.
¶6. Comments.
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(U) Migrant workers are by nature a highly mobile and
somewhat hidden population. In the chaotic wake of Thailand’s
worst natural disaster, a large portion of the 30,000 in
provinces and occupations most likely to have been affected
are simply unaccounted for. Many likely moved quietly to
other provinces in search for new employment, beyond the gaze
of RTG officials and the handful of interested NGOs. Others
may have returned to Burma at the many informal crossings
along the porous border. A true accounting of the Burmese
killed by the tsunami will never be made. For those whose
bodies were found, few will be identified. In the six days
immediately following the tsunami, Laboff did not encounter
any Burmese searching for relatives among the hundreds of
bodies strewn about make-shift morgues in Khao Lak district,
Phang Nga province, nor were there Burmese language notices
on the many missing persons boards. On December 29, the
hasty cremation of dozens of Asian remains was observed at a
Buddhist temple. Workers said that most remains had not been
claimed by a group of Thai villagers waiting nearby, offering
that “they are probably just Burmese.” Concerned NGOs
believe that language barriers, and a well-ingrained fear of
Thai officialdom, accounts for the reluctance of migrants to
identify compatriots who perished in the tsunami.
¶7. (SBU) Post advocacy efforts in the weeks ahead will focus
on the living, particularly Burmese women and children who
might be at risk of trafficking in persons. About 10,200
registered (and an estimated 3,000 unregistered) women were
employed in tsunami-devastated economic sectors in the three
most affected provinces, and many of these have certainly
lost employers, putting them in danger.
BOYCE
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Assistant Secretary Shapiro, Embassy Bangkok welcomes
you to Thailand. Despite ongoing domestic discord and
current inward focus, Thailand\’s strategic importance to the
U.S. cannot be overstated. Your visit provides an
opportunity to signal the United States\’ appreciation for the
long-standing bilateral relationship, which has facilitated
shared benefits in the fields of security, law enforcement,
and intelligence efforts, as well as groundbreaking
health/research collaboration and long-standing refugee
support. In just the last three months alone, the U.S.-Thai
partnership has yielded a promising new lead in the drive to
develop an HIV vaccination and the seizure of more than 35
tons of North Korean weapons, two examples which serve to
illustrate the depth and breadth of a relationship. In late
December, the Thai Cabinet approved a supplemental budget to
facilitate the delayed peacekeeping deployment to Darfur.
2. (C) As your visit will take place in the run up to the
expected U.S.-Thai Strategic Dialogue, Thai interlocutors
will likely be interested in pursuing discussions on
strategic views of regional security challenges and how the
U.S.-Thai alliance can be focused to assist as Thailand
prepare for threats. The Thai will look to discuss U.S.
assistance through bilateral exercises and training, and
helping the Thai military modernize either by means of
procuring U.S. defense articles or via the hoped for receipt
of excess defense articles by way of Thailand\’s status as a
Major Non-NATO Ally, as Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya raised
in 2009 with Secretary Clinton and other senior USG
officials. In addition, with the Royal Thai Armed Forces
Headquarters (RTARF) preparing for a difficult deployment to
UNAMID in Darfur, the Thai military will look to explore ways
whereby the U.S. can assist.
POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT
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3. (SBU) The last eighteen months were turbulent for
Thailand. Court decisions forced two Prime Ministers from
office, and twice the normal patterns of political life took
a back seat to disruptive protests in the streets. The
yellow-shirted People\’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) occupied
Government House from August to December 2008, shutting down
Bangkok\’s airports for eight days, to protest governments
affiliated with ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The
red-shirted United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship
(UDD), followers of Thaksin, disrupted a regional Asian
Summit and sparked riots in Bangkok in mid-April 2009 after
Thaksin, now a fugitive abroad in the wake of an abuse of
power conviction, called for a revolution to bring him home.
2010 promises to be contentious as well, with Thaksin and the
red shirts having vowed to redouble their efforts to topple
the government.
4. (C) Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is a photogenic,
eloquent 44-year old Oxford graduate who generally has
progressive instincts and says the right things about basic
freedoms, social inequities, policy towards Burma, and how to
address the troubled deep south, afflicted by a grinding
ethno-nationalist Muslim-Malay separatist insurgency.
Delivering is another matter, and Abhisit has disappointed us
recently on the repatriation of the Lao Hmong and his
handling of several foreign investment-related issues.
Despite recent higher approval ratings, Abhisit remains
beset by a fractious coalition, vigorous parliamentary
opposition in the form of a large block of politicians under
the Puea Thai Party banner, and street protests from the
red-shirts.
5. (C) While both yellow and red try to lay exclusive claim
to the mantle of democracy, neither side of this split is as
democratic as it claims to be. Both movements reflect deep
social concerns stemming from widespread perceptions of a
lack of social and economic justice, but both seek to triumph
in competing for traditional Thai hierarchical power
relationships. New elections would not appear to be a viable
solution to political divide, and political discord could
persist for years. We continue to stress to Thai
interlocutors the need for all parties to avoid violence and
respect democratic norms within the framework of the
constitution and rule of law, as well as our support for
long-time friend Thailand to work through its current
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difficulties and emerge as a more participatory democracy.
RECEDING MONARCHY
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6. (C) Underlying the political tension in Bangkok is the
future of the monarchy. On the throne for 62 years,
U.S.-born King Bhumibol is Thailand\’s most prestigious
figure, with influence far beyond his constitutional mandate.
Many actors are jockeying for position to shape the expected
transition period Thailand during royal succession after the
eventual passing of the King, who is currently in poor
health. Few observers believe that the deep political and
social divides can be bridged until after King Bhumibol
passes and Thailand\’s tectonic plates shift. Crown Prince
Vajiralongkorn neither commands the respect nor displays the
charisma of his beloved father, who greatly expanded the
prestige and influence of the monarchy during his 62-year
reign. Nearly everyone expects the monarchy to shrink and
change in function after succession. How much will change is
open to question, with many institutions, figures, and
political forces positioning for influence, not only over
redefining the institution of monarchy but, equally
fundamentally, what it means to be Thai.
SOUTHERN THAILAND – SEPARATIST INSURGENCY
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7. (C) An ethno-nationalist Malay Muslim insurgency in
southern Thailand has claimed an estimated 3,500 lives since
2004. The fundamental issues of justice and ethnic identity
drive the violence as many Malay Muslims feel that they are
second-class citizens in Thailand, and ending the insurgency
will require the government to deal with these issues on a
national level. The insurgents use IEDs, assassinations, and
beheadings to challenge the control of the Thai state in the
deep South; the government has responded through special
security laws which give security forces expanded power to
search and detain people. The Thai military is now deeply
involved in counter-insurgency efforts; in the late
1990s-2004, the military viewed the top national security
threat to be the flow of illegal narcotics from neighboring
Burma.
8. (C) The insurgents direct their anger at the government in
Bangkok, not at the United States. Since a U.S. presence or
perception of U.S. involvement in the South could redirect
that anger towards us and link it to the international
jihadist movement — a link that is currently absent — we
ensure that any offers of assistance or training pass the
\”location and label\” test. Put simply, we keep U.S. military
personnel away from the far South and we make sure that we do
not label any assistance or training as directly linked to
the southern situation. Likewise, we work to avoid feeding
rampant, outlandish speculation that we are somehow fomenting
the violence in the South in order to justify building
permanent bases — a very sensitive issue in Thailand. We do
not want to jeopardize our access to key military facilities
in Thailand like Utapao Naval Air Station.
ENDURING BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP
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9. (C) Despite the political divide, Thailand\’s strategic
importance to the U.S. should not be understated. The
U.S.-Thai military relationship, which began during World War
II when the U.S. trained Thais to covertly conduct special
operations against the Japanese forces occupying Thailand has
evolved into a partnership that provides the U.S. with unique
benefits. Thailand remains crucial to U.S. interests in the
Asia-Pacific region and beyond. Our military engagement
affords us unique training venues, the opportunity to conduct
exercises that are nearly impossible to match elsewhere, a
willing participant in international peacekeeping operations,
essential access to facilities amid vital sea and air lanes
that support contingency and humanitarian missions, and a
partner that is a key ASEAN nation in which we continue to
promote democratic ideals.
10. (C) Thailand\’s willingness to allow the United States to
use Utapao Naval Air Station as the hub for our regional
assistance program was key to making the 2004 tsunami and the
2008 Cyclone Nargis relief operations a success. While those
high-profile relief operations highlighted publicly the value
of access to Utapao, the air base is used regularly for
military flights. A prime example was the critical support
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Utapao provided during OEF by providing an air bridge in
support of refueling missions en route to Afghanistan.
Approximately 1,000 flights transit Utapao every year in
support of critical U.S. military operations both regionally
and to strategic areas of the world. Thailand also provides
valued port access with U.S. naval vessels making calls,
primarily at Laem Chabang and Sattahip, over sixty times per
year for exercises and visits.
11. (SBU) Beyond traditional military activities, our
bilateral military relationship provides benefits in other
important areas. One example it the Armed Forces Research
Institute of Medical Sciences\’ (AFRIMS) collaboration with
Thai counterparts on basic research and trial vaccines. The
sophistication of the Thai scientific and public health
community makes collaboration as useful to the USG as it is
to the Thais. A number of important breakthroughs, such as
in the prevention of HIV/AIDS transmission from mothers to
children, were developed here, and the first partially
successful phase III, double blind trial for a potential HIV
vaccine occurred in 2009; a second such trial run by CDC is
currently ongoing.
COBRA GOLD AND THE MILITARY EXERCISE PROGRAM
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12 (C) By means of access to good military base
infrastructure and large areas to conduct unrestricted
operations, Thailand gives the U.S. military a platform for
exercises unique in Asia. Thai leaders are far more willing
to host multinational and bilateral exercises than are other
countries in Asia. This has allowed us to use exercises in
Thailand to further key U.S. objectives, such as supporting
Japan\’s growing military role in Asia and engaging the
Indonesian and Singaporean militaries.
13. (C) Cobra Gold, the capstone event of our exercise
program, is PACOM\’s largest annual multi-lateral exercise and
for 29 years has served to strengthen our relations with
Thailand, highlight our commitment to Southeast Asia, and
provide exceptional training opportunities for our troops.
The event has evolved over the years and now facilitates
important objectives such as promoting a greater role in the
Asian Pacific region for Japan, Singapore, and South Korea
and re-establishing a partner role with Indonesia. Cope
Tiger, a leading air exercise with the Thailand and
Singapore, and CARAT, a bilateral naval event, are key
mechanisms for engagement of the Thai navy and air force.
The Thai military continues to highlight to us the
significance of these events for training and for
relationship building.
PEACEKEEPING EFFORTS AND DARFUR DEPLOYMENT
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14. (C) Thailand has historically been a strong supporter of
UN peacekeeping missions and was an early contributing nation
to operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. In addition, Thai
generals very effectively led UN forces in East Timor, to
which Thailand contributed 1,500 troops, and in Aceh where a
Thai general served as the principal deputy of the Aceh
Monitoring Mission. Thailand is preparing for deploying a
battalion of troops for a difficult UNAMID mission in Darfur
and has asked for USG assistance (Ref A). During your visit,
the Thai will be very interested in discussing ways ahead on
the deployment. Using GPOI funding, we are working with the
military to increase its peacekeeping capabilities, both as a
contributing nation and as a trainer of neighboring nations.
BORDER CONFLICT WITH CAMBODIA
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15. (C) Bilateral relations with Cambodia remain volatile,
primarily due to a border dispute centered on 4.6 square
kilometers of overlapping territorial claims adjacent to the
11th century Hindu Preah Vihear temple. Minor skirmishes
have erupted three times since mid-2008, leading to the
deaths of seven soldiers. Cambodian Prime Hun Sen\’s November
2009 decision to appoint Thaksin as an economic advisor
further stoked cross-border tensions.
16. (C) The roots of the border dispute lie in the
Siam-France agreements of 1904-8 and a 1962 International
Court of Justice ruling that granted Cambodia the temple but
left the rest of disputed land unresolved. Tensions spiked
in 2008 when the Thai government in power at that time
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supported Cambodia\’s application to UNESCO for a joint
listing of the temple as a world heritage site, only to face
opposition in parliament and an adverse court ruling. Thorny
internal political considerations and historical rancor
between Thailand and Cambodia make progress difficult. We
urge both sides to resolve their differences peacefully
through bilateral negotiations, border demarcation, and a
reduction of troops deployed along the border.
REFUGEE CONCERNS
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17. (C) Due to inherent institutional capabilities, the Thai
military plays a prominent role in the management of the many
refugees that enter Thailand from neighboring countries.
Thailand continues to host more than 140,000 Burmese and
facilitate resettlement of more than 14,000 refugees to the
U.S. annually, but the recent forced repatriation of two
groups of Lao Hmong in late December provoked international
outcry. We underscore to the RTG our disappointment with the
deportation decision and our continuing concern over access
to the Hmong now that they have been returned to Laos. The
Thai have asked us privately about possible repercussions due
to the deportation.
THE INCREASING ROLE OF CHINA
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18. (C) As the shape of Southeast Asia, Asia writ large, and
the world has changed, so have Thai attitudes. The Chinese
have been making a major push to upgrade all aspects of
relations, including mil-mil. Thailand is not interested in
making a choice between the U.S. and China (nor do we see
closer Chinese-Thai relations as automatically threatening to
our interests here), but we will need to work harder to
maintain the preferred status we have enjoyed. While Thai
military links with the United States are deeper and far more
apparent than Sino-Thai links, China\’s growing influence in
Thailand is readily evident.
19. (C) The Chinese have made a strong effort to court the
Thai military. The Thai military has a range of Chinese
weapons systems in its arsenal; the PLA Navy is interested in
closer links with the Thai navy, and China has worked with
Thailand to improve air defense equipment provided to
Thailand in the late 1980\’s. In 2007 and 2008, Thai and
Chinese Special Forces conducted joint exercises, and other
mil-to-mil exchanges have expanded in recent years, as has
the number of bilateral military VIP visits.
20. (C) During a visit to Thailand by Chinese Minister of
National Defense Liang Guanglie for the King\’s birthday
celebrations in early December 2009, the Thai and Chinese
militaries agreed to expand bilateral exercises to include
the two nations\’ navies, marines, and air forces. The
initial exercise will be conducted early this year, with the
PLA engaging Thai sailors and marines through an amphibious
landing event and a naval rescue and humanitarian relief
exercise. While some entities within the RTG resisted the
expanded engagement, reportedly the MFA and the Marine
Commandant, the Thai tell us that the Chinese pushed hard for
a rapid expansion of bilateral exercises. The Thai Marines
suggested to us that the exercise will be held at the platoon
or company level; it is unclear how many Navy personnel may
participate.
21. (C) The expansion of joint exercises follows China
providing Thailand with $49 million in military assistance
following the 2006 coup. Beyond exercises and assistance,
the number of exchanges by Thai and Chinese officers studying
at military institutes has increased significantly in recent
years, particularly since the coup. The PLA has also
actively courted Thai military leaders, including Defense
Minister Prawit Wongsuwan and Army Commander General Anupong
Paojinda, through multiple hosted-visits to China.
JOHN
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason 1.4 (b,d)
1. (C) Summary: Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya called
Ambassador to the Foreign Ministry on short notice late
November 19, primarily to discuss Cambodia and Thaksin.
Kasit began the meeting expressing \”profound thanks\” for the
President and Secretary\’s effective re-engagement in Asia
this year. Kasit blamed the ongoing diplomatic spat between
Thailand and Cambodia as the by-product of former PM Thaksin
Shinawatra\’s desire to bring down the RTG at any cost. Kasit
described Indonesian efforts to act as a broker for
Thai-Cambodian messages; he appealed to the U.S. to \”put a
few words\” in with Hun Sen about disengaging from Thaksin\’s
machinations against a fellow ASEAN neighbor. Ambassador
suggested that Thailand should seek to take the high road
going forward, finding ways it could publicly cooperate with
Cambodia, easing tensions. As the meeting broke up, FM Kasit
mentioned the Lao Hmong issue, underscoring the Thai
commitment to working closely with Laos while being mindful
of the concerns of the international community.
2. (C) Comment: In a session that had the air of musing out
loud, Kasit was not as focused in this meeting, in terms of
agenda and message, as he usually is, a sign perhaps that
Thai officials are unsure of next steps in the Thai-Cambodia
dynamic and what Thaksin\’s next steps may be, with the next
red rally anticipated to be larger and longer than any since
the April red riots. We will follow-up with ideas on
health-related and other humanitarian projects that have a
U.S. component that might serve as vehicles for useful
cross-border humanitarian gestures. End Summary.
\”Profound thanks\” for U.S. return to Asia
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3. (C) Clearly buoyed by APEC and ASEAN-related discussions
in Singapore, FM Kasit began the early evening meeting with
Ambassador and PolCouns by expressing \”profound thanks\” for
the reinvigorated U.S. engagement in Asia in 2009,
culminating with President Obama\’s recent Asia swing but
including Secretary Clinton\’s two prior trips to Asia. This
reaffirmation of U.S. interest in Asia by both physical
presence of the President and Secretary, and substantive
dialogue and proposed cooperation, such as the Lower Mekong
Initiative launched by the Secretary in Phuket at the July
ASEAN Regional Forum, was critically important, Kasit
stressed.
4. (C) FM Kasit referenced useful \”chit chat\” on the margins
of APEC between Thai PM Abhisit and the President, as well as
with Secretary Clinton prior to the President\’s arrival. PM
Abhisit and the Royal Thai Government (RTG) were deeply
appreciative of the President\’s interest in what was going on
domestically in Thailand, and especially of the health of His
Majesty King Bhumibol, Kasit added.
Thaksin\’s challenge to the \”very fabric\” of Thai society
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5. (C) Switching to the domestic political situation, Kasit
asserted that the current RTG was committed to promoting the
further democratization of Thai society and ensuring that
authorities played by the rule of law. The coalition
government looked to stay in office long enough to show
results from their education reform and infrastructure
development policies. National reconciliation, regardless of
political color, was essential if the country were to move
forward. However, Kasit felt compelled to clarify the
situation vis-a-vis Thaksin, due to suggestions from
(unspecified) American quarters. It is too late to expect
the RTG to negotiate a deal with Thaksin, he stated. Two
factors, the two year sentence for abuse of
office/corruption, and his instigation of violence in April
aiming to topple the RTG, made negotiations or \”out of court\”
settlements impossible.
6. (C) Ambassador asked Kasit why Thaksin had taken two
controversial steps in recent weeks that seemingly undercut
his position in Thailand–the Cambodia trip and the Times
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Online interview touching on the monarchy. Thaksin had
knowingly gone down a path over the past five-six years,
rejecting any possibility of compromise, that had led him and
the country to the current situation, Kasit stated.
7. (C) For his part, Thaksin continued to pursue
extra-constitutional methods to force a change in government,
and his \”rhetorical mud-slinging\” on the issue of the
monarchy, claimed Kasit. In so doing, Thaksin was trying to
undermine the very fabric of Thai society, and the stability
of the country, with violence the only way to achieve his
objectives. Kasit warned this process, if it spun out of
control, had the potential to affect U.S.-Thai relations as
well. Ambassador underscored the Embassy\’s consistent
message to red-shirt leaders of the United Front of Democracy
Against Dictatorship (UDD), Puea Thai politicians, and others
associated with Thaksin that they should not employ violence
in pursuit of their political aims. Kasit responded that all
Thais should work out of a common believe in the democratic
system, but that Thaksin was working to undermine the fabric
of Thailand\’s democratic regime.
International voices to Hun Sen (on the Thaksin issue)
——————————————— ———
8. (C) FM Kasit said Thailand would \”highly appreciate\” the
U.S. sharing \”a few words\” with Cambodian leader Hun Sen \”to
help him come to his senses\” regarding his support of
Thaksin, in light of what the red-shirts \”intend to do next
week\” (note: a reference to the red-shirt announcement of a
rally starting November 28 that they vow will continue until
it topples the RTG. End note). Hun Sen was supporting a
force publicly intent on destabilizing Thailand; Thailand
would appreciate messages to Hun Sen to disassociate with
Thaksin. Apart from the Thaksin factor, the rest of the
Thai-Cambodia relationship could be quickly put back on an
even keel, Kasit opined, adding that the Thai continued to
talk to Hun Sen\’s West Point-educated son, \”whom we find
sensible, though we do not know what he says to his father.\”
9. (C) Kasit described one international mediating effort
ongoing; on the margins of the Singapore APEC/ASEAN meetings,
Indonesian President SBY had invited PM Abhisit/FM Kasit to
meet him and Indonesian FM Marie, and subsequently met Hun
Sen, to hear both countries\’ views on how the diplomatic spat
had evolved. SBY had delegated FM Marie to serve as an
interlocutor to pass messages between the Thai and
Cambodians. According to Kasit, the Thai message via the
Indonesians to Hun Sen had been simple: disassociate with
Thaksin, and help the relationship revert to where it was
prior to October 23, when Hun Sen arrived in Thailand for the
ASEAN Summit and publicly insulted the Thai judicial and
political processes in unacceptable terms.
10. (C) Hun Sen\’s further comments in media interviews
alleging that the Democrat Party was orchestrating
anti-Cambodia press coverage and PAD activities was off-base,
Kasit asserted; the Thai had repeatedly explained to Hun Sen
that Thailand was an open society with a free media, and that
the yellow-shirts spent more time attacking the Democrat-led
coalition than they did focsed on Cambodia/Hun Sen.
11. (C) When asked about Thai assessments of Hun Sen\’s
motivation in making such public common cause with Thaksin,
Kasit replied that Hun Sen appeared frustrated that he was
not able to realize short-term financial gain from an
expected package deal with Thaksin and allies over territory
around Preah Vihear to be turned into a \”Disney-like\”
entertainment complex, as well as the joint off-shore
development area. Out of frustration, Hun Sen appeared to
have bet on pressuring the current Thai government to fall,
banking on Thaksin-backed forces to win the next election,
amend the Constitution, pardon Thaksin, implement one-party
rule, and deliver him payback in return.
Next Steps in Thai-Cambodia relations
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12. (C) Kasit painted a bleak picture of the immediate next
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developments in the Thai-Cambodia spat. Hun Sen would run a
\”kangaroo court\” on the arrested Thai national, and he had
effectively nationalized the Thai company with a 33 year
concession to run the Air Traffic Control service by ejecting
the Thai management. Kasit suggested Hun Sen\’s motives were
to undermine Thai public support of the RTG\’s position by
playing the personal tragedy and business dispute cards.
Already the owner of the air traffic control concession was
begging the RTG to salvage his investment; meanwhile, the MFA
was paying out $20,000 in legal services for his arrested
employee, and paying to fly his mother to Cambodia to see him.
13. (C) Ambassador suggested Thailand should take the high
road going forward, given that Hun Sen had precipitated the
crisis by so publicly hosting Thaksin, by finding ways it
could publicly cooperate with Cambodia, both to ease tensions
and to underscore to international partners and friends its
positive approach to the situation. Kasit replied that he
had written to ASEAN Foreign Ministers and engaged them
personally. Indonesia and Malaysia were \”with us,\” Kasit
assessed, Singapore cautious. Vietnam would not allow
Thaksin to visit; even Brunei was \”okay.\” It came down to
just Cambodia and Hun Sen.
14. (C) Ambassador suggested other avenues of cooperation,
including promoting humanitarian assistance in areas such as
health cooperation in fighting malaria affecting the
Thai-Cambodia border area and distribution of H1N1 vaccines
via the WHO. Kasit replied positively, noting that Thailand
was continuing all humanitarian and development assistance
projects for Cambodia, that Thailand continued to buy tapioca
and corn from Cambodia contract farmers, and that border
commanders continued their regular lunches and discussion of
cooperative border efforts; anti-malarial efforts were
important in this regard. Thailand had no issue with the
Cambodian people, Kasit stressed; Thailand had attended the
recent Japan-Mekong Summit as a co-donor with Japan, not as
an aid recipient.
Lao Hmong
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15. (C) As the meeting started to break up, Kasit asked if
there were new developments regarding the issue of the Lao
Hmong. Ambassador referenced the recent meeting between PRM
and the Thai Embassy in Washington. Nodding, Kasit replied
that he had read the embassy\’s report. Thailand continued to
talk to the Lao regarding repatriations, but at the same time
it was mindful of the international community\’s concerns and
interest in the issue, he concluded.
JOHN
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason 1.4 (b,d)
1. (C) Summary: Ambassador engaged Thai FM Kasit Piromya
August 6 on U.S.-Thai relations, DRPK and the ARF Chair
Statement, Burma and Aung San Suu Kyi (ASSK), Cambodian
border issues, the Lao Hmong, and Viktor Bout\’s extradition.
Ambassador and Kasit agreed on the need to elevate the nature
of the U.S.-Thai diplomatic-security dialogue to a more
strategic level. Ambassador stressed U.S. displeasure with
the July 23 ARF Chair language on North Korea; Kasit asserted
that ASEAN had intended to keep channels of dialogue to
Pyongyang open while emphasizing to the DPRK that following a
path of confrontation was futile. Kasit characterized
increasing ASEAN pressure on Burma and said that ASEAN could
not move forward absent fundamental change in Burma.
Recently concluded Thai-Cambodian meetings showed progress,
but Kasit said there would need to be a grand package of land
border and off-shore Joint Development Area (JDA) agreements
to overcome bilateral distrust and nationalists in both
countries. Ambassador thanked Kasit for recent increased
access to the Lao Hmong in Phetchabun and pushed for a rapid
change in the status of Hmong held in Nong Khai; Kasit
expressed hope there would be progress in the near future.
Ambassador reiterated U.S. interest in a successful
conclusion in the Viktor Bout extradition case, with a
decision due August 11. End Summary
Kasit: Thanks again for S engagement in Phuket
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2. (SBU) FM Kasit once again conveyed a \”profound\” thank you
for Secretary Clinton\’s presence at the ASEAN Regional Forum
(ARF) in Phuket July 22-23. Her participation engendered
good will, elevated the quality of the discussions, and
helped make ARF a success, he said.
3. (SBU) Kasit urged quick and substantive follow-up to the
Lower Mekong initiative, and asked for U.S. plans for next
steps, including on the Mississippi-Mekong partnership in
exploring riparian state responsibilities. For his part,
Kasit planned to meet soon with the ESCAP Executive Director,
the ADB, and the World Bank to take stock of possible
programming in the Lower Mekong region, with a focus on
technical cooperation and human resource development.
Bilateral Relations – Strategic Dialogue
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4. (C) Ambassador and Kasit traded thoughts on implementing
the promise of an enhanced strategic dialogue discussed by
Kasit and the Secretary during Kasit\’s April visit to
Washington. Ambassador emphasized the need to switch from
the transactional approach of the past several years to a
more strategic partnership. Kasit agreed, reiterating his
views shared with the Secretary, Deputy Secretary Steinberg,
and S/P director Slaughter in April: Thailand for the past
eight-ten years has been reactive to piecemeal U.S. requests
(\”send troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, give us access to
Utapao\”), rather than being a partner in discussing policy
together. That was his goal, even if Thailand only rose to a
\”junior\” strategic partner.
5. (C) If the U.S. were to explain its overall approach to
the Asia-Pacific region for the future, Kasit continued,
Thailand\’s role as an ally in advancing a shared agenda of
promoting peace and stability in the region could flow
naturally. Cooperative efforts in disaster relief
management, upgrading civil-military capacity, peacekeeping
in a UN/regional context, and capacity-building in countries
like Cambodia-Laos-Vietnam, and eventually Burma, were all
prospective topics to be discussed in his view. Ambassador
added that the Thai position in ASEAN, the relationships with
China and India, and a socio-cultural component including
educational exchanges should also be part of the agenda; late
October/early November might be appropriate timing.
6. (SBU) Kasit mentioned that PM Abhisit planned to attend
the UN General Assembly in September. Abhisit would seek
business meetings in New York, and plan to engage Congress in
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Washington, even if executive branch meetings proved too
difficult to arrange.
7. (C) Referencing his conversation with NSA GEN Jones in
April, Kasit passed a list of equipment the Thai military
hoped might be available via Excess Defense Articles (EDA) or
other military assistance mechanisms as the U.S. drew down in
Iraq. Most of the current Thai armored unit equipment was
30-40 years old, Kasit noted, making it difficult to stay
interoperable with the U.S. Ambassador agreed to pass the
equipment list via our Military Assistance Group but
suggested equipment requests would best be discussed in
context of Thailand\’s strategic needs as part of a broader,
deeper political-military strategic dialogue component.
Kasit acknowledged this point, and agreed with Ambassador on
the utility of closer collaboration between Foreign and
Defense officials in both countries as part of the strategic
dialogue. Kasit noted he met or spoke with Defense Minister
Prawit weekly.
ARF Statement\’s DPRK language
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8. (C) Kasit raised his July 31 telcon with Deputy Secretary
Steinberg on the ARF statement\’s language on North Korea. He
said China had pushed Thailand hard to give the DPRK room and
to avoid language that would cause the North Koreans to walk
away and possibly never come back to the ARF or the Six Party
process. The Thai and ASEAN also believed a quiet and soft
approach was the order of the day. Kasit had told the DPRK
head of Del in Phuket, Ambassador Pak Kun-gwang, that North
Korea could not continue on its current confrontational path;
firing rockets and testing nuclear weapons would get it
nowhere. The outside world was prepared to provide
assistance if it adopted a different approach; confrontation
was futile. Kasit felt that the North Korean delegation left
Phuket understanding their obligations, that the channel of
dialogue had remained open, with the expectation that the
North Koreans should return to the Six Party Talks.
9. (C) Kasit and the Chinese FM had a long discussion about
this issue in Phuket; China would be working hard behind the
scenes to bring the DPRK back to the Six Party table. Kasit
had thought about going to Pyongyang as ASEAN Chair to
facilitate progress; the Thais had been in a dialogue with
Pyongyang for 5-6 months, with Vice Ministers Panich having
traveled to Pyongyang to try to secure high level attendance
at the ARF, and Kasit raising it on the margins of the
mid-July Sharm-el-Sheik NAM meetings.
10. (C) Ambassador emphasized there remained significant
disagreement over the ARF statement, and Secretary Clinton
had asked that he convey her disappointment with the
language. The July 2- AMM communiqu language on the Korean
Peninsula was good, the July 23 ARF statement not so
(reftel). While we understood the Thai position that China
and Russia had come to the Thai claiming they did not want to
be associated with the language, the fact remained that there
had been agreement among representatives of the five
countries on the language. Furthermore, when the Secretary
and Kasit had met, Permsec Virasak had characterized the
state of play on DPRK language very differently, suggesting
the DPRK wanted a call on all parties to exercise restraint,
and that the DPRK was willing to engage in dialogue. The
final language was much different, was imbalanced, and
suggested an equivalence between the two positions – near
consensus of ARF vs. DPRK propaganda, which was substantively
wrong, and procedurally had been handled poorly. Ambassador
urged that the RTG consult more closely with the U.S. on this
issue in the future.
11. (C) Kasit acknowledged that the Thai were fully aware of
the possible consequences of the statement as issued, but he
reiterated his view of the importance of keeping open the
channel. By accommodating them \”a bit\” on language, it kept
the DPRK in play, with no other direction to turn but to
re-engage in talks. \”This is a process,\” and ASEAN felt it
had a role to help push the parties in the right direction.
Russia and China now had to deliver on their end of the
bargain. Kasit expressed hope the release of the two U.S.
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journalists on former President Clinton\’s visit to Pyongyang
would provide positive momentum to substantive negotiations
as well.
Burma and impact on ASEAN
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12. (C) Kasit reconfirmed that PM Abhisit\’s visit to Burma
had been postponed to avoid potentially coinciding with the
expected verdict in Aung San Suu Kyi\’s (ASSK) trial. Kasit
predicted that the Burmese would sentence ASSK to three
years, but \”whatever it is, it will be unacceptable.\” After
constant pushing in recent months at a series of ASEAN
meetings, most recently in Phuket, Kasit asserted the Burmese
knew well the damage they would do to themselves and to ASEAN
with a conviction. ASEAN countries are consistently harping
on the \”centrality of ASEAN\” in regional architecture but
ASEAN must earn its role, in Kasit\’s view. Without
fundamental change in Burma, ASEAN would have no credibility,
and would not be able to advance further as a community,
Kasit stated.
13. (C) Kasit said that he would travel to Indonesia and
Malaysia in the near future to consult about the way forward.
He predicted various ASEAN states would complain separately
in the aftermath of an ASSK conviction. Thailand would seek
to ally with \”old ASEAN\” members to push a more forceful
line. He and Singapore FM George Yeoh had repeatedly pushed
their Burmese FM counterpart to convey the views of ASEAN,
and the need for change, fully to Than Shwe. The recent
visit of Singapore Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong to Burma to
hammer home ASEAN concerns was also important; \”there needs
to be more of such regional pressure.\” For his part, Kasit
planned to suggest to the Burmese FM in their next discussion
that if the regime were to convict ASSK, they pardon her
immediately.
14. (C) The Burmese had asked Kasit to facilitate another
round of talks with the Karen, Kasit revealed. Kasit had not
yet set a place and date, but his message to Karen National
Union (KNU) leaders would be: go negotiate. The KNU had no
chance whatsoever at a military victory; their situation only
worsened with constant pressure by the Burmese Army and Karen
DKBA proxies. Kasit felt the KNU\’s best option was to
negotiate a deal, and then coordinate with the other cease
fire groups with similar interests. Kasit personally
believed Burma should be configured as a federation, not a
union. The military would of course \”cheat\” and dominate the
lower house of any parliament, but the states could have
representation in an Upper House, and a process of
self-cleansing of the system could begin.
15. (C) Ambassador thanked Kasit for the rapid Thai reaction
to the influx of new Karen refugees in June. Kasit said that
he had pushed the Burmese FM to create a safe area in Karen
state to which the new arrivals could return without
guaranteed harrassment from the Burmese army.
Cambodia – border negotiations and JDAs
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16. (C) Kasit characterized the August 4-5 meetings of the
Thai-Cambodian Joint Committee, and the visit of Cambodian
DPM and FM Hor Namhong, as successful. He asked Hor Namhong
to tell the Cambodian media that Cambodian-Thai relations
were actually much smoother that the press indicated. The
Thai were financing roughly 80 technical assistance and
development projets, drawing on soft loans and the resources
of the Ministry of Finance and several other ministries. Hor
Namhong suggested the Thai invite the Cambodian Minister of
Information for a visit, identifying him as a one of the key
officials stoking a more confrontational public line.
17. (C) While border issues were not directly discussed,
Kasit said that both sides are aware of the rough parameters
of what each side could accept, and not; there would need to
be give and take on disputed areas and jointly developing
areas (JDAs) off-shore in the Gulf. The promise of peace and
mutually economic gain should eventually win the day, in
Kasit\’s view. In the meantime, fixing the location of
boundary stone 73 (note: near the coastline), and agreeing on
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the watershed definition of six points near Preah Vihear,
would pose the chief challenges. Thai DPM Suthep and
Cambodia\’s Sok An had led the JDA discussions, coming close
to an agreement in principle, but the maritime deal would
need to be packaged together with a deal on the disputed land
areas near Preah Vihear. This would be necessary due to the
elements of distrust in the relationship, as well as
nationalists in both countries who would oppose any
compromise. Leaders in both countries would have to be
brave, and explain the pluses and minuses to a packaged deal.
18. (C) Kasit said that he had passed critical comments to
Total over the recent announcement of a provisional deal for
exploration rights in the disputed Gulf areas and would file
a note of protest to the Cambodians. In the end, any
unilateral concessions for exploration would not go forward,
and would be superceded by whatever JDA agreement emerged,
just as had happened in the late 1990s when Thailand and
Malaysia reached a similar JDA agreement.
Lao Hmong
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19. (C) Ambassador thanked Kasit for PM Abhisit\’s assurances
to the Secretary that there would be no forced repatriation
of the Lao Hmong in Phetchabun. Referencing recent moves by
the Thai military to provide more access to the Phetchabun
camp and the first meaningful U.S. participation in
discussions about the Lao Hmong August 7, Ambassador also
pushed Kasit for a quick resolution of the 158 Hmong in the
Nong Khai detention center, perhaps allowing them to return
to relatives in Lopburi. Kasit said that he was trying to
bring the Ministry of Social Welfare into the picture to
improve the situation at Nong Khai. If the discussions at
Phetchaburi went well, he hoped there would be forward
progress. Kasit said he had underscored the need for humane,
humanitarian treatment of the Hmong to his military
counterparts.
Viktor Bout
———–
20. (C) Ambassador reiterated the Secretary\’s message to PM
Abhisit and FM Kasit on the importance we placed on a
successful conclusion to the Viktor Bout extradition case,
with the judge\’s decision expected August 11. The U.S.
continued to be concerned about ongoing Russian efforts to
influence the decision. Kasit said he understood and agreed.
JOHN
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SUBJECT: THAILAND SCENESETTER FOR ADMIRAL KEATING
Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Admiral Keating: we look forward to welcoming you to
Thailand. Your visit, particularly the planned meeting with
PM Abhisit Vejjajiva on February 17, will afford the
opportunity to highlight the importance of Thailand to our
regional security interests as new governments settle in in
both countries. Expected meetings with Minister of Defense
General (Ret.) Prawit Wongsuwan and RTARF Chief of Defense
Forces General Songkitti Jaggabartra will allow you to
emphasize our support for important areas of our mil-mil
relationship, such as the Defense Reform Management Study
(DRMS), Cobra Gold, and Thailand\’s deployment of peacekeepers
to Darfur. What follows are brief thoughts on a number of
issues which may come up during your visit. Regards,
Ambassador Eric John.
NEW ADMINISTRATIONS IN BOTH COUNTRIES
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2. (C) Thai officials have expressed strong interest in
hearing an assessment of the new administration\’s Asia
policy; your visit will occur at the same time as Secretary
Clinton\’s inaugural visit to Asia. You can stress to the
Thai the lasting value we place on our long-time alliance
relationship and that we do not anticipate significant
changes in our partnership, due the nature of long-standing
U.S.-Thai security, economic, and cultural bonds.
3. (C) The December 2008 installation of the Democrat-led
coalition government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajjiva has
calmed the political situation for now, but the basic split
in Thai society and the body politic remains. PM Abhisit is
off to a reasonably good start in his first six weeks in
office, but his government faces significant policy
challenges and a tough economic situation. Political discord
could very well persist for years, through what promises to
be a messy transition after the eventual passing of revered
King Bhumibol.
SOUTHERN THAILAND – MORE SERIOUS INTENT
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4. (S) The most significant policy shift under PM Abhisit has
been an emphasis on addressing the southern violence,
including significant civilian involvement and revived secret
discussions with representatives of southern insurgents
started by former PM Surayud. However, it remains unclear
how the civil-military dynamic will change. The Thai
military has tried to quell the ethnic Malay Muslim-led
insurgency in southern Thailand with increasingly effective
security sweeps, but occasional abuses by security forces
have added to the sense of grievance and lack of justice by
the local populace. The root causes of the insurgency –
government neglect and a lack of social justice, combined
with a desire for some form of self-determination, have not
been effectively addressed by any Thai government to this
point.
5. (C) The Thai remain sensitive to any perceived U.S.
involvement in the south, and we should not lean too far
forward in offering assistance. We have responded by helping
the Thai military focus on improving the professional and
operational skills of the Royal Thai Armed Forces; helping
break down stovepipes between the Thai military, police
forces, and civilian agencies; and by pressing for respect of
international human rights norms.
ROHINGYA/HMONG CONCERNS PERSIST
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6. (C) Of late Thai security force actions regarding Rohingya
\”boat people,\” including maritime pushbacks, have resulted in
strong criticism of Thailand. We continue to stress to our
contacts that Thailand should provide access for UNHCR to
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Rohingya who reach Thai shores, and that push-outs to sea are
not consistent with basic humanitarian principles.
7. (C) Due to inherent institutional capabilities, the Thai
military plays a prominent role in the management of the many
refugees that enter Thailand from neighboring countries. The
Thai government has so far failed set up a transparent
screening process for the thousands of Lao Hmong, some of
whom we believe may have a legitimate claim to refugee
status, who seek resettlement in the U.S. You should
underscore the importance of transparently handling these
Hmong cases.
BORDER TALKS CONTINUE WITH CAMBODIA
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8. (C) Thailand and Cambodia held Joint Border Commission
(JBC) and Defense Minister talks February 2-6 in an attempt
to address the border dispute centered on overlapping claims
to territory adjacent to Preah Vihear temple. The JBC talks
stalled after the two sides failed to agree on an official
name for the temple and for a monitoring mechanism that would
replace troops positioned at the temple. That said, we are
pleased that atmosphere surrounding the issue has improved
dramatically since clashes between troops in 2008. You could
stress to the Thai interlocutors our hope that the dispute
can be resolved peacefully and bilaterally.
PEACEKEEPING EFFORTS – DARFUR
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9. (C) The Royal Thai Armed Forces Headquarters (RTARF) has
been a close partner for us as the Thai government prepares
to deploy a battalion of peacekeeping troops to Darfur. The
RTARF has taken a measured approach during preparations, one
reflective of the significant challenges the Thai military
will face in Darfur, and the most likely timeframe for
deployment is mid-2009. You could thank the Thai for their
willingness to assume this difficult mission and reiterate
that we stand ready to assist where possible in the hope that
the Thai battalion will be deployed as quickly as reasonably
possible.
DEFENSE REFORM
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10. (C) We have been working closely with the RTARF on the
U.S.-funded Defense Resource Management System (DRMS) project
which will help rationalize the Thai military\’s procurement
and other resource needs. Phase II of this process will
begin the first week of March following the ASEAN summit
scheduled for Thailand. You could take the opportunity
during your meetings with DefMin Prawit and GEN Songkitti to
reinforce our message that we desire to work closely with the
Thai to accelerate the DRMS process.
INTEROPERABILITY
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11. (SBU) The U.S. remains the country of first choice for
arms procurement by the military, and has more than $2
billion of arms procurements currently in process. In recent
years, however, the Thai military has diversified
procurements. We continue to look at ways to improve
interoperability with the Thai military, one example of which
is our encouragement of the Thai Air Force to choose a
Mid-Life Update to F-16s.
THE INCREASING ROLE OF CHINA
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12. (C) Thailand continues to develop closer relations with
China while simultaneously emphasizing the vital role of the
U.S. in the region. The military is part of this trend, both
in terms of weapons procurement and, more recently, joint
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exercises. Your interaction with GEN Songkitti, in
particular, would be a prime opportunity to explore Thai
military thoughts on the future direction of engagement with
the PLA.
JOHN
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1. (C) Summary. Coming visits by component commanders, and
other senior leaders of various U.S. military commands will
afford a chance to affirm the United States Government\’s
commitment to working with a democratically elected Thai
government, to promoting a continued strong bilateral
relationship, and to affirming our support for important
areas of our mil-mil relationship such as the Defense Reform
Management Study (DRMS), Cobra Gold, and Thailand\’s
deployment of peacekeepers to Darfur. End Summary.
ENDURING BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP
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2. (SBU) The Thai public closely watched our recent
Presidential election, and the results received much scrutiny
regarding the potential impact on U.S.-Thai relations. Thai
government officials have expressed strong interest in
hearing assessments of the transition to a new administration
and U.S. policy towards Southeast Asia. We have stressed to
the Thai we do not anticipate significant changes in our
bilateral relationship due to the history and strength of our
alliance and the nature of long-standing U.S.-Thai security,
economic, and cultural bonds. However, the changing
generations in both Thailand and the U.S. require both sides
work hard to maintain the vibrancy in the relationship.
THAI POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT – YELLOW AND RED
——————————————-
3. (C) The December dissolution of the People\’s Power Party
(PPP), which led to the fall of the government of former PM
Somchai and installation of the Democrat-led coalition
government of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajjiva, has appeared
to quiet, at least temporarily, the political situation.
Gone are the street protests by the anti-government People\’s
Alliance for Democracy (PAD) which shut down Bangkok\’s
airports for a week and occupied the formal seat of
government for over three months. But the basic deep split
in society and the body politic remains, with the traditional
royalist elite, urban middle class, Bangkok, and the south on
one side (\”yellow\” in shorthand) and the political allies of
ex-PM Thaksin, currently a fugitive abroad, along with
largely rural supporters in the North and Northeast (\”red\”)
on the other.
4. (C) Prime Minister Abhisit is off to a reasonably good
start in his first month in office, but his government faces
significant policy challenges given the current economic
situation in Thailand and globally. Abhisit and the
Democrats also have to contend with former Prime Minister
Thaksin Shinawatra\’s continued attempts to influence the
political environment from abroad and to recover assets of
his that were seized by the government. Moreover,
demonstrations by United Front of Democracy for Dictatorship
\”redshirts\” loyal to the former PM will test the new
government.
5. (C) Calling for new elections would not appear to be a
viable solution to political divide, and political turmoil
could very well persist for years. The steadiest figure on
the political stage over the past months has been Army
Commander Anupong Paochinda, who steadfastly rejected
pressure from both sides for the army to intervene in the
political stalemate, either to conduct a coup d\’etat or to
clear the streets of protesters. We continue to stress to
Thai interlocutors the negative ramifications of a coup and
the need for all parties to avoid violence and respect
democratic norms within the framework of the constitution and
rule of law.
6. (C) King Bhumibol turned 81 on December 5. Many had
anticipated his commentary for his annual address to the
nation on the eve of his birthday; his address was canceled,
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however, after he fell ill with bronchitis. (Note: The King
was hospitalized for a period of weeks in late 2007 for
appeared to be a minor stroke. End note.) The Palace has
since announced the King\’s recovery; as of late, he has been
shown on television more frequently in meetings with both
foreigners and Thais. The King\’s passing, whenever that may
be, will shock Thailand. Crown Prince Vajiralongkorn is the
King\’s designated heir. However, the current King\’s enormous
personal prestige, the lack of a precedent for royal
succession during the modern era (King Bhumibol has been on
the throne since 1946), and changing sentiment about the
proper role of the institution in the 21st century suggest
that the transition will be difficult.
THAI ECONOMY STRUGGLES TO OVERCOME CHALLENGES
———————————————
7. (SBU) Over the past few years, Thailand\’s economy has been
growing at a moderate pace, though the long-running political
uncertainty has stifled domestic investment, hamstrung
government stimulus programs, and kept Thailand from keeping
up with other ASEAN nations. The worldwide economic slowdown
of recent months has hit Thailand particularly hard as
exports, the one bright spot in GDP growth, have fallen,
causing growth forecasts for 2009 to be ratcheted down from
4% to less than 2%. This dreary scenario was made much worse
by the November airport closures, which devastated Thailand\’s
large tourism and convention industries just at the beginning
of the high season.
8. (SBU) Historically, Thailand\’s economy has hummed along
unaffected by frequent political squabbling, but the recent
willingness of political actors to take actions that clearly
damage the economy and the nation\’s international image is
changing that tenet. Thailand\’s largest foreign investors,
Japanese in particular, have expressed dismay at the new turn
in events. The full effect of the airport closures has not
yet shown up in the data, but FDI (especially from the U.S.)
was already trending down for 2008. The new government is
well aware of these challenges, has made an extraordinary
effort to put together an economically reasonable and
politically savvy economic stimulus package, and is reaching
out to the foreign business community to re-built Thailand\’s
image as a good place to do business.
IMPORTANT MILITARY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM, ACCESS
———————————————
9. (SBU) The long-standing U.S.-Thai military partnership
provides the U.S. with unique benefits. These include
distinctive force projection options, the possibility to
conduct training exercises that are nearly impossible to
match elsewhere in Asia, the opportunity to advance U.S.
strategic goals, access to military leaders in a nation that
is trying to strengthen democratic institutions, a willing
participant in international peacekeeping operations, and a
partner in medical research which has produced widely-used
vaccines.
10. (C) Thailand\’s willingness to allow the United States to
use Utapao Naval Air Station as the hub for our regional
assistance program was key to making the 2004 tsunami and the
2008 Cyclone Nargis relief operations successful. While
those high-profile relief operations highlighted publicly the
value of access to Utapao, the air base is used regularly for
flights in support of critical U.S. military operations to
strategic areas of the world. Thailand also provides valued
port access with U.S. naval vessels making calls, primarily
at Laem Chabang and Sattahip, over forty times per year for
exercises and visits.
COBRA GOLD AND THE MILITARY EXERCISE PROGRAM
——————————————–
11. (C) By means of access to good military base
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infrastructure and large areas to conduct unrestricted
operations, Thailand gives the U.S. military a platform for
exercises unique in Asia. Thai leaders are far more willing
to host multinational exercises than are other countries in
Asia. Unlike Japan, which only hosts annual bilateral
exercises due to legal prohibitions over collective security,
or the Philippines, where planning for multinational
exercises has been difficult, or Australia, which refuses to
multilateralize Tandem Thrust, the Thai government encourages
multinational exercises as a way to show regional leadership.
This has allowed us to use exercises in Thailand to further
key U.S. objectives, such as supporting Japan\’s growing
military role in Asia and engaging the Indonesian and
Singaporean militaries.
12. (C) Cobra Gold, the capstone event of our exercise
program, is PACOM\’s largest annual multi-lateral exercise and
for 28 years has served to strengthen our relations with
Thailand, highlight our commitment to Southeast Asia, and
provide exceptional training opportunities for our troops.
The event has evolved over the years and now facilitates
important objectives such as promoting a greater role in the
Asian Pacific region for Japan and Singapore and
re-establishing a partner role with Indonesia. Cobra Gold is
key to building partner nation capacity in humanitarian
assistance and disaster relief, especially at a time when
U.S. forces face other global commitments. We have also been
able to incorporate into Cobra Gold a robust Global
Peacekeeping Operations Initiative (GPOI) event with active
participation of Indonesia and Singapore. Our other primary
exercises with the Thai military are CARAT and COPE TIGER.
DEFENSE REFORM
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13. (C) We have been working closely with the Royal Thai
Armed Forces Headquarters (RTARF) on the U.S.-funded Defense
Resource Management System (DRMS) project which will help
rationalize the Thai military\’s procurement and other
resource needs. We use every appropriate opportunity to
emphasize our desire to work closely with the Thai military
leadership to accelerate DRMS process. Phase II of this
process will begin the first week of March following the
ASEAN summit scheduled for Thailand.
PEACEKEEPING EFFORTS
——————–
14. (C) Thailand has been an active contributor in
peacekeeping missions, best known for leading forces in the
UNTAET mission in East Timor. The RTARF has been a close
partner for us as the Thai government continues preparations
to deploy a battalion of peacekeeping troops to Darfur as
UNAMID. With deployment currently scheduled for mid-2009, we
have continued to underscore to the leadership of the Thai
military that we stand ready to assist the Thai again where
possible.
SOUTHERN THAILAND: SECURITY AND JUSTICE
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15. (C) The Thai military, since General Anupong became Army
Commander, has taken a more assertive role in trying to quell
the ethnic Malay Muslim ethno-nationalist insurgency in
southern Thailand, a region that has witnessed episodic
violence since its incorporation into Siam/Thailand in 1902.
Regional violence has claimed more than 3000 lives since
January 2004, when the violence began to escalate. The root
causes of the insurgency — government neglect, human rights
abuses, and a lack of social justice, combined with a desire
for some form of self-determination, have not been addressed
by any Thai government to this point.
16. (C) While the Thai military has so far focused mostly on
trying to resolve the difficult security situation in the
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South, with increased tactical success in security sweeps,
occasional abuses by security forces have added to the sense
of grievance and lack of justice by the local populace.
Efforts by civilian government ministries to solve the root
causes of injustice and the feeling of disenfranchisement by
the Thai-Malay majority in the three southern provinces have
so far lagged. While the Abhisit government appears set to
adopt an integrated government approach to solving the
insurgency with budgetary and policy decision making
responsibility possibly transferred to the Office of the
Prime Minister, it remains unclear how the civil-military
dynamic will change.
17. (C) The RTG has made clear its hesitancy in accepting any
direct USG role in the South. The Embassy maintains a
three-pronged focus to improve our military cooperation in
order to address the violence in the South:
1) Using our exercise and training program to improve the
professional and operational skills of the Royal Thai Armed
Forces, especially the Thai Army;
2) Helping the Thai break down stovepipes between the Thai
military, police forces, and civilian agencies;
3) Doing everything we can to ensure the Thai respect
international human rights norms as they counter the violence.
BORDER CONFLICT WITH CAMBODIA
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18. (C) Thai Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya\’s January 26
visit to Phnom Penh produced encouraging statements by all
sides regarding the border dispute that is centered on
overlapping claims to territory adjacent to Preah Vihear
temple. The next round of talks under the auspices of the
Foreign Ministry-led Joint Border Commission (JBC) are
scheduled for February 2, and the two nations\’ defense
ministers are scheduled to meet February 6 to discuss the
redeployment of soldiers stationed at the temple. Despite
continued talks between Thailand and Cambodia, we are not
optimistic for quick resolution to the dispute. Difficult
issues lay at the heart of the matter, and political conflict
in Bangkok may make tough decisions more difficult for the
Thai government. We continue to stress to the Thai
interlocutors that the dispute should be resolved peacefully
and bilaterally.
REFUGEE/MIGRANT CONCERNS: LAO HMONG AND ROHINGYA
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19. (C) Thailand has hosted millions of refugees since the
IndoChina wars and currently has more than 150,000 refugees
from Burma in camps along the Thai-Burma border. The RTARF
has the lead on resolving the difficult problem of the
thousands of Hmong from Laos who arrived in 2006-2007 seeking
resettlement in the U.S.; many of them likely would not
qualify for refugee status and will be returned to Laos.
However, the Thai government has so far failed to set up a
transparent screening process for the Hmong currently in a
camp in Petchaboon province; we believe that a portion of the
group may have a legitimate claim to refugee status and could
face harsh treatment by the Lao government if returned. Some
are former fighters (or their descendants) allied with the
U.S. against the communist Pathet Lao during the IndoChina
wars. We want to take every opportunity to underscore to the
RTARF the importance of transparently handling the Lao Hmong
cases.
20. (C) Media reports in recent weeks over Thai actions
regarding Rohingya \”boat people\” have resulted in strong
criticism of the RTG and its policy toward groups that
attempt to enter Thailand, primarily from Burma. Rohingya
typically cross from Burma\’s Northern Rakhine state into
Bangladesh to board vessels bound for Malaysia. This year
many have instead found their way to the Ranong area in
Thailand, the Andaman Islands of India, and Aceh Province,
Indonesia. According to various reports, several hundred
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Rohingya went missing from at least one vessel encountered by
the Indian coast guard off Port Blair in the Andaman Islands
in early January. Survivors have alleged being towed out to
sea and being abandoned by Thai military or marine police
vessels.
21. (C) A recent visit to the Ranong area by Embassy RefCoord
suggests to us that two loosely defined groupings of unpaid
civilian defense volunteers drawn from fishing villages were
involved in the alleged mistreatment of the Rohingya, but
that they received general policy direction and some
financial support from the Thai Army-led local Internal
Security Operations Center. It remains unclear what boats
may have been involved in towing the Rohingya back out to
sea. We continue to stress to our contacts in the Thai
government that Thailand should provide access for UNHCR to
Rohingya boat people who reach Thai shores, and that
push-outs to sea are not consistent with basic humanitarian
principles.
THE INCREASING ROLE OF CHINA
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22. (C) Thai leaders continue to develop closer relations
with China while simultaneously emphasizing the vital role of
the U.S. in the region. While Thai military links with the
United States are deeper and far more apparent than Sino-Thai
links, China\’s growing influence in Thailand and Southeast
Asia is evident in business, the arts, the media, and the
military. The Thai military has a range of Chinese weapons
systems in its arsenal; the PLA Navy is interested in closer
links with the Thai navy, and China has worked with Thailand
to improve air defense equipment provided to Thailand in the
late 1980\’s. In 2007 and 2008, Thai and Chinese special
forces conducted joint exercises, and other mil-to-mil
exchanges have expanded in recent years, as has the number of
bilateral military VIP visits. A yet to be disclosed marine
corps exercise between China and Thailand near the eastern
seaboard port of Sattahip in the April-May timeframe
highlights the continuing push by China to expand their
mil-to-mil relations with Thailand\’s military.
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Summary and Comment:
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1. (C) Summary: On December 26, Ambassador, accompanied by
DCM and poloff, paid a courtesy call on newly appointed
Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya. The Ambassador was the first
member of Thailand\’s diplomatic community to call on Kasit.
He congratulated Kasit on his appointment and took the
opportunity to highlight a range of political and economic
issues high on the U.S. policy agenda, including compulsory
licensing (CL) and intellectual property rights (IPR) issues,
Burma, refugees, southern Thailand, and Viktor Bout. While
reaffirming the importance the U.S. places on the bilateral
relationship with Thailand, the Ambassador emphasized the
need for continued forward movement on these issues. In
closing the discussion, the Ambassador told Kasit that,
although the U.S. supports free speech and peaceful
demonstrations in support of political change, the PAD,s
airport seizure had hurt Thailand\’s image. Kasit agreed.
2. (C) Summary continued: FM Kasit responded by saying that
he looked forward to a close and constructive relationship
with the U.S., and that he was committed to working to the
best of his ability to ensure the relationship remained
positive and strong. The new government hopes to hold the
ASEAN summit in Bangkok the third week of February. He said
clean governance and integrity were high on Prime Minister
Abhisit policy agenda. This included IPR enforcement and a
better dialogue on CL issues. He vowed Thailand\’s external
relationships would not be driven by \”vested\” interests,
including the interests of public companies like EGAT and PTT
in Burma. He said Thailand would work to constructively
engage Burma on the range of issues that affect Thai-Burma
relations, including the repatriation of refugees and cross
border issues. Kasit promised to study a non-paper on the
Viktor Bout case provided by the Ambassador.
3. (C) Comment: The session was a refreshing and positive
meeting with an interlocutor who appears competent and
clearly understands the issues affecting the U.S.-Thai
relationship. A former Ambassador in Washington (2004-05),
Kasit was forward leaning on all the issues we discussed and
reiterated several times his commitment to a positive and
constructive relationship with the U.S. While Kasit will
undoubtedly advocate Thailand\’s positions forcefully, his
professional focus and understanding of the complexities of
the U.S.-Thai relationship will make working with him and the
MFA on difficult issues easier. End comment.
Old partner in a new role
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4. (SBU) In a meeting on December 26 with the Ambassador,
newly-appointed FM Kasit expressed enthusiasm about the new
U.S. administration and looked forward to working with the
incoming U.S. Secretary of State on a close and constructive
relationship. Noting that in the recent past, Thailand had
played a passive and reactive role in its relationship to the
U.S., just responding to U.S. requests, Kasit vowed Thailand
would now be more proactive in planning the direction of the
relationship.
ASEAN
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5. (SBU) Starting off with a discussion on the ASEAN summit,
Kasit told the Ambassador that the summit will likely take
place the third week of February, in Bangkok. Plans for the
summit would be finalized after the government delivered its
policy statement on December 29 or 30; the Cabinet would then
meet to approve the framework for the summit and send it to
parliament for approval on January 5 or 6. Kasit assured the
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Ambassador that the RTG still planned for the U.S. Ambassador
for ASEAN Affairs, Scott Marciel, to attend as an observer.
Kasit said work on the Terms-of-Reference (TOR) for the
formation of the ASEAN human rights body was proceeding well;
he hoped a first draft would be ready by the beginning of the
summit. Kasit opined that the TOR and formation of the human
rights body would be an indication of the future direction of
ASEAN. He said it would show that ASEAN was working not just
for open markets, but for \”open societies\” as well.
CL, IPR, CSR, and Trade
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6. (SBU) On economic issues, Kasit told the Ambassador that
he has been engaging the Ministry of Commerce (MoC) to
improve coordination on issues such as Compulsory Licensing
(CL); the MoC would take the lead on establishing an
interagency committee to tackle issues of intellectual
property right (IPR) protection enforcement. The Ambassador
emphasized to Kasit the importance the U.S placed on IPR and
CL and said the pharmaceutical industry had felt over the
last six months that the cards were stacked against it; the
Ministry of Health seemed to have taken advantage of
confusion within the government to add more CLs without going
through the proper process. The pharmaceutical industry
sought a better dialogue with the RTG.
7. (SBU) Kasit responded that he had just spoken to the
Ministry of Health on this issue. He said he believed there
would be another committee to address it, with PREMA
(Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturer Association)
represented on the committee. The Democrat-led government of
Prime Minister Abhisit was very serious about IPR issues,
Kasit maintained, and there would be a strong message in the
government\’s up-coming policy statement about governance and
corporate responsibility. He pointed out that Abhisit, in
his first cabinet meeting, had emphasized nine precepts to
guide his government. The second precept was specifically
about honesty and governance. He had recently chaired a
seminar at the National Counter Corruption Committee (NCCC)
on corporate social responsibility; the NCCC planned to work
with the private sector on this issue. He hoped that a
national policy on clean governance and corporate
responsibility would translate down to private sector
business practices by linking corporate social responsibility
to a government body.
8. (SBU) The Ambassador rounded out the discussion on
economic issues by commenting on beef imports and trade in
general. He thanked Kasit for his forward leaning comments
on CL and IPR but stressed that import regulations in the
beef industry needed to be liberalized and brought into line
with the rest of the region. He emphasized the need to
continue moving forward on trade issues; given the global
economic climate, trade issues would likely become more
difficult to resolve before they get easier, making forward
movement essential.
Burma and Refugees: A Clean Slate
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9. (C) In response to the Ambassador\’s inquiry about the new
Thai government\’s Burma policy, Kasit said that PM Abhisit
had made it clear to the Cabinet that vested interests would
not drive Thailand\’s external relationships. Kasit said he
planned on talking to Burma on a whole range of issues, and
that the vested interests that drove Thailand\’s past
relationship with Burma (including the activities of
companies and state agencies such as EGAT (the Electricity
Generation Authority of Thailand) and PTT (the Petroleum
Authority of Thailand)) would no longer drive policy. With
such interests out of the way, the Thai and Burmese would
start on a clean policy slate and spend more time addressing
cross-border issues, such as trafficking in persons, drugs,
and smuggling. Kasit said the ASEAN charter would give them
the means to address these issues in a constructive manner.
10. (C) On refugee issues, Kasit thanked the U.S. for the
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Burmese resettlement program, which last year took 14,000
Burmese to the U.S. He said he had recently traveled to Mae
Sot and found the physical conditions in the camps \”not
encouraging,\” and not healthy. He was particularly concerned
about infrastructure issues; there was a need for more
investment in education and vocational training for children,
so they would come out of the camps with some ability to do
something. He said he planned on reviewing the entire
refugee policy approach and would have internal discussions
with the National Security Council and Ministry of Interior
on better coordination with international NGOs.
11. (C) Kasit added, however, that there also needed to be a
discussion with the Burmese government on repatriation.
Since the resettlement program had created a \”pull\” factor,
Thailand must work with Burma and somehow eliminate the pull
factor. On the Lao Hmong, Kasit agreed with the Ambassador
that the issue of repatriating Hmong to Laos was extremely
complicated because of the deep social divisions between the
Hmong and the Lao government. Kasit said Abhisit planned to
go to Laos in January on his first foreign visit and hoped to
address this issue. Kasit nodded when the Ambassador said
the situation of the Hmong at the Nong Kai immigration
detention center, many of them children, needed to be
resolved as well.
Cambodia and resolving border disputes
————————————–
12. (SBU) Kasit said the issue of negotiating with Cambodia
over the border dispute near the Preah Vihear temple would be
resubmitted to the cabinet for discussion. Thailand needed
to respect the early 1960s World Court decision on the
temple. There remained, however, according to Kasit, five
other spots along the border that needed to be resolved
through negotiations with Cambodia. He reaffirmed plans to
retain Ambassador Vasin Tearavechyon as the Thai co-chair of
the Thai-Cambodia Joint Border Commission. He said that he
was encouraged that Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen had been
the first foreign leader to congratulate PM Abhisit (by
letter).
Plans for Southern Thailand
—————————
13. (C) On possible new approaches to address the unrest in
southern Thailand, Kasit said that the forthcoming policy
statement would contain a section on a new draft law to
establish a coordinating agency, under Deputy Prime Minister
Suthep Thaugsuban, for the deep south. Kasit affirmed that
the Democrat-led government would attempt a comprehensive
plan for dealing with the insurgency that would extend beyond
security measures and focus heavily on addressing issues of
justice, economics, and culture. Foremost, he said, the
government must be sensitive to the needs of the local
people. He said that although there would be a push for
large-scale infrastructure projects, the government will
first take steps to ensure money that has been budgeted for
the south actually gets to the places where it is needed. An
additional 100 billion baht ($3 billion) would then be
allocated to deal with the situation. The money would be
used for, among other things, development of the halal food
industry and a project involving a land bridge to connect sea
ports on the Gulf of Siam to the Andaman Sea (as an
alternative to using the Strait of Malacca).
14. (C) According to Kasit, the government\’s approach to the
south would be marked by a willingness to talk. He said
cooperation with both Indonesia and Malaysia would be
welcome, and the RTG planned to follow-up on offers of
assistance from both these countries. He said they must also
take stock of what had happened to negotiations since Surayud
Chulanont was Prime Minister (through February 2007). There
were promises and commitments made; the new administration
needed to figure out what had happened to these commitments.
Bout
—-
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15. (SBU) The Ambassador highlighted to Kasit the importance
the USG places on the extradition proceedings of indicted
Russian arms trafficker Viktor Bout, noting that the U.S.
remained patient, but looked forward to an eventual
extradition. Kasit responded by saying PM Abhisit was very
committed to the rule of law and integrity. He said the MFA
would closely monitor the proceedings (note: Bout\’s
extradition hearing went into recess December 23, scheduled
to resume on March 6, 2009, a year after he was initially
taken into Thai custody). The Ambassador gave Kasit a
non-paper on the status of the Bout case, which the Foreign
Minister promised to study.
JOHN
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary. Admiral Keating, your brief meeting with
Royal Thai Armed Forces (RTARF) Chief of Joint Staff General
Ratchakrit Kanchanawat at the Chiefs of Defense conference
affords a chance to affirm the United States Government\’s
commitment to working with a democratically elected Thai
government, to underscore the importance we place on
Thailand\’s political crisis being solved through the
political process, and to highlight our support for important
areas of our mil-mil relationship such as the Defense Reform
Management System (DRMS), Cobra Gold, and Thailand\’s
deployment of peacekeepers to Darfur. END SUMMARY.
ENDURING BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP
——————————-
2. (C) Thai officials have expressed strong interest in
hearing U.S. government officials\’ assessment of the upcoming
transition to a new U.S. new administration. We have
stressed to the Thai that while President-elect Obama will
have the opportunity to shape his own foreign policy, we do
not anticipate significant changes in our bilateral
relationship due to the history and strength of our alliance
and that the nature of U.S.-Thai security, economic, and
cultural bonds remain a strong foundation for the
relationship.
THAI POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT
————————–
3. (C) Immediate concerns of a coup in Thailand have faded as
the nation focuses on a sequence of major events. Over the
course of the next five weeks the Thai government will
conduct the funeral for the King\’s sister Princess Galyani,
celebrate the King\’s birthday in early December, and host the
ASEAN summit in mid-December. The Thai political scene,
however, remains deeply divided with the royalist elite and
urban middle class on one side and the allies of former Prime
Minister Thaksin and their upcountry rural supporters on the
other. While Army Commander Anupong Paochinda steadfastly
remains committed to keeping the army outside politics, there
are those on both sides of the political divide who appear
willing to engage in violence which could prove an
unpredictable trigger for
military intervention.
4. (C) The status quo does not appear to be sustainable. The
pro-Thaksin People\’s Power Party will likely be dissolved,
and the follow-on party would almost certainly command a
plurality or a majority if new elections were to be called.
Possible actions to try to strengthen the two sides positions
include forming a new administration, calling new elections,
or launching a coup. None of these actions, however, appear
likely to lead to resolution of the current divide. As such,
political turmoil could very well persist for years. You
should praise the Thai military leadership for keeping above
the political fray, and reiterate to Ratchakrit that a coup
would be seen very negatively internationally and not resolve
the underlying causes of the political turmoil. It is
important that all parties avoid violence, and respect
democratic processes and the rule of law.
COBRA GOLD AND THE MILITARY EXERCISE PROGRAM
——————————————–
5. (C) By means of access to good military base
infrastructure and large areas to conduct unrestricted
operations, Thailand gives the U.S. military a platform for
exercises unique in Asia. We are on track for a very
successful iteration of the major JCS-directed COBRA GOLD
exercise in February 2009. The exercise will continue to
advance our goal of promoting joint and combined military
operations in our Cobra Gold partners of Thailand, Indonesia,
Japan and Singapore.
BANGKOK 00003341 002 OF 003
BORDER TALKS BEGIN WITH CAMBODIA
——————————–
6. (C) We are encouraged that the Thai and Cambodian
governments this week began bilateral talks to try to resolve
the border dispute that is centered on overlapping claims to
territory adjacent to Preah Vihear temple. Talks under the
auspices of the Foreign Ministry-Joint Border Commission
(JBC) will attempt to address the conflict through
negotiations but we are not optimistic for quick resolution
to the dispute. Difficult issues lay at the heart of the
matter, and continued political conflict in Bangkok may make
tough decisions more difficult for the Thai government. We
continue to stress to the Thai that we hope that the dispute
can be resolved peacefully and bilaterally.
DEFENSE REFORM
————–
7. (C) We have been working closely with the RTARF on the
U.S.-funded DRMS project which will help rationalize the Thai
military\’s procurement and other resource needs. Former
RTARF Supreme Commander General Boonsrang Niumpradit was a
key proponent of defense reform, and your meeting with
General Ratchakrit will provide an excellent opportunity to
underscore our desire to work closely with the Thai military
leadership to accelerate the DRMS process.
PEACEKEEPING EFFORTS
——————–
8. (C) Thailand has been an active contributor in
peacekeeping missions, best known for leading forces in the
UNTAET mission in East Timor. The RTARF has been a close
partner for us as the Thai government continues preparations
to deploy a battalion of peacekeeping troops to Darfur as
UNAMID. With deployment currently scheduled for the May-June
2009 timeframe, we have continued to underscore to the
leadership of the Thai military that we stand ready to assist
the Thai again where possible.
ENCOURAGING SIGNS ON HMONG ISSUE
——————————–
9. (C) The RTARF has the lead on resolving the difficult
problem of the thousands of Hmong from Laos seeking
resettlement in the U.S. The Thai government has set up a
screening process for the Hmong currently in a camp in
Petchaboon province, and we believe that a portion of the
group may have a legitimate claim to refugee status and could
face harsh treatment by the Lao government if returned. We
have been encouraged as the RTARF has recently begun to share
valuable information with us. Nonetheless, we want to take
every opportunity to underscore to the RTARF the importance
of transparently handling these refugee cases.
SOUTHERN THAILAND
—————–
10. (C) The Thai military, since the installation of General
Anupong as Army Commander, has taken a more assertive role in
trying to quell the ethnic Malay Muslim-led insurgency in
southern Thailand, a region that has witnessed episodic
violence since its incorporation into Thailand in 1902.
Regional violence has claimed over 3000 lives since January
2004, when the violence began to escalate. The root causes
of the insurgency — government neglect, human rights abuses,
and a lack of social justice, combined with a desire for some
form of self-determination, have not been addressed by any
Thai government to this point. While the Thai military has
so far demonstrated the most focus on trying to resolve the
situation in the South, efforts on the part of other parts of
the government have so far lagged.
BANGKOK 00003341 003 OF 003
11. (C) The Embassy maintains a three-pronged focus to
improve our military cooperation in order to address the
violence in the South:
1) Using our exercise and training program to improve the
professional and operational skills of the Royal Thai Armed
Forces, especially the Thai Army;
2) Helping the Thai break down stovepipes between the Thai
military, police forces, and civilian agencies;
3) Doing everything we can to ensure the Thai respect
international human rights norms as they counter the violence.
JOHN
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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason 1.4 (b, d)
1. (C) Summary: Ambassador, accompanied by DCM and
PolCounselor, met with Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign
Minister Sompong Amornvivat late October 27. Fresh from the
ASEM meetings in Beijing October 23-25, FM Sompong described
the positive atmosphere of Thai-Cambodian meetings and
highlighted hopes that the Thai parliament would approve the
interim arrangement October 28, allowing the Joint Border
Committee (JBC) to proceed with negotiations. PM Somchai and
Sompong will attend APEC meetings in Peru in late November;
with Thailand currently serving as ASEAN Chair, Sompong
welcomed the opportunity for another ASEAN 7 meeting with the
President.
2. (C) Ambassador raised U.S. concerns on Burma, Viktor
Bout\’s extradition, and Lao Hmong. On Burma, Sompong said he
would look for indirect ways of promoting democratic
development, such as offering Thai assistance/training on
local administration elections, since pressing anything
labeled \”democracy\” on the Burmese would be rejected. On
Bout, Sompong acknowledged our interest but noted the Thai
justice system would need to finish its review. On Hmong,
Sompong stressed the importance of proceeding with returns to
Laos on a voluntary basis, and noted that third country
resettlement would require Lao agreement. Sompong confirmed
the Thai are scouting logistics to hold the ASEAN Summit
meetings in Chiang Mai rather than Bangkok in December, and
joked that accommodating the People\’s Alliance for Democracy
(PAD) anti-government protests had become a normal part of
daily life. End Summary
Cambodia – back to talking
————————–
3. (C) FM Sompong launched into an animated account of what
he characterized as calm and fruitful meetings with Cambodian
PM Hun Sen and FM Hor Namhong in Beijing October 24, on the
margins of the ASEM summit. The Thai and Cambodians agreed
to proceed on the basis of bilateral mechanisms; while the
Thai had braced for more contentious meetings, Hun Sen had
framed the issues in a way that matched the Thai approach,
according to Sompong. Both sides agreed to try to avoid
another confrontation similar to the armed clash on October
15.
4, (C) Ambassador noted media accounts of Cambodian
allegations that the Preah Vihear temple had suffered damage
in the Oct. 15 clash. Sompong claimed that Cambodian troops
on the grounds of the temple had fired on Thai troops,
acknowledged Thai soldiers returning fire with small arms may
have caused some limited damage, but stressed the Thai had
not employed RPGs (Note: Separately on October 27, MFA
PermSec Virasak Futrakul claimed to the media that Cambodia
may have violated the terms of the UNESCO World Heritage
listing of Preah Vihear by stationing soldiers/heavy weapons
on site at the temple).
5. (C) Sompong noted Cambodian irritation at the delays on
the Thai side in moving forward with the interim agreement.
He hoped the problem would be rectified October 28, when the
Thai parliament was scheduled to review the interim agreement
(note: negotiated in September by then-FM Tej Bunnag). As
soon as the parliament acted, Sompong would call his
counterpart to relaunch JBC negotiations; a Ministerial would
follow. Hor Namhong had told him in Beijing that, of the
73-odd border posts along the Thai-Cambodian border, 50 were
set; negotiations would focus on the remaining 20-25.
Sompong said he was working closely with Royal Thai Army
Commander Anupong Paojinda to coordinate Thai positions.
APEC – ASEAN 7 in Lima, ASEAN in Chiang Mai
——————————————-
6. (SBU) Sompong confirmed that PM Somchai and he planned to
attend the APEC summit in Lima, Peru in late November. There
would be follow-on meetings between ASEAN and MERCOSUR in
Brasilia, he added. Since Thailand currently served as ASEAN
Chair, Thailand would be very interested in another ASEAN 7
meeting with the President; Sompong noted that MFA PermSec
Virsakdi Futrakul had previously raised Thai interest in such
a meeting with EAP DAS Marciel.
BANGKOK 00003227 002 OF 002
7. (SBU) Sompong also confirmed that the Thai were now
planning to host the series of ASEAN-related summit meetings
in December in Chiang Mai rather than Bangkok and had sent
logistics teams to Chiang Mai to scout out appropriate
venues. Sompong joked that Chiang Mai\’s lovely cool season
weather, not Bangkok\’s hot politics or his own Chiang Mai
roots, was the driving factor.
8. (SBU) Rounding out discussion of regional meetings,
Sompong said that Finance Ministers and Central Bank
Governors of Asian countries would meet in the Philippines
November 12 to discuss coordinated policy responses to the
financial crisis, building on meetings in Beijing. Sompong
foresaw that a slowdown in Thai exports due to economic
difficulties elsewhere could drive up unemployment.
Burma – taking an indirect approach
———————————–
9. (C) Ambassador noted that October 24 marked a total of 13
years of house arrest for Aung San Suu Kyi and pressed FM
Sompong to use every opportunity to advocate for the release
of all Burmese political prisoners and to foster a more open
political atmosphere. Sompong pledged to try to raise the
\”concerns of friends\” when he met with Burmese officials.
Sompong suggested that the reaction of the international
community after Cyclone Nargis had changed Burma a little
bit.
10. (C) In the Beijing meeting with FM Nyan Win, Win had
asked Sompong for Thai support; Sompong said he replied that
such actions needed to be reciprocal. He had told Win that
Thailand was ready to help, suggesting that Thailand could
share valuable experience with local administration
development/elections. This indirect approach avoided the
word \”democracy,\” since the Burmese stiffened at the mere
mention of it. Win had thanked Sompong, and replied that if
Burma needed assistance, they would ask. Sompong said that
he would travel to Burma soon; he solicited ideas/indirect
phrases that might help nudge Burmese thinking in the right
direction.
Viktor Bout – under judicial review
———————————–
11. (C) Ambassador raised U.S. interest in the eventual
successful extradition of notorious Russians arms trafficker
Viktor Bout once the Thai judicial review was complete, an
issue he and Sompong had discussed when Sompong was Justice
Minister. Sompong acknowledged U.S. interest but stressed
that Thai ministers could do little as long as the matter
remained under judicial review.
Lao Hmong – only voluntary returns
———————————-
12. (C) Ambassador noted recent progress made with engaging
the Thai military on Lao Hmong in Thailand but stressed the
importance of adequate third-party monitoring and
transparency; there was heightened interest on the part of
U.S. relatives and Congress in this matter. Sompong related
his recent trip to Laos, claimed that the Thai would not send
back any Hmong against their will, only on a voluntary basis,
and stated that Thailand would take care of them in the
meanwhile. Third-country resettlement would need to be
arranged with the Lao, he added. Sompong noted that a number
of NGOs had raised Hmong-related issues when meeting with him.
Domestic politics: living with PAD
———————————-
13. (C) Sompong chortled when Ambassador raised the road
forward domestically given the ongoing People\’s Alliance for
Democracy\’s (PAD) occupation of Government House: \”we feel
much easier now; the PAD has become part of our daily lives.\”
Sompong suggested the Thai government should not take any
drastic steps, while needing to maintain law and order. \”One
day they will move out (of Government House), though who
knows when.\” Sompong said he had assured all of his
bilateral interlocutors in Beijing that the PAD action did
not prevent the Thai government from working and would have
no affect on ASEAN summit plans for December.
JOHN
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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: KWMN, KCRM, ELAB, PHUM, PREL, TH, HUMAN RIGHTS, Hill Tribes
SUBJECT: STATELESS TIP VICTIMS TO BE REPATRIATED TO THAILAND AFTER
14 MONTH DETENTION
REF: Bangkok 2291
1. Ministry of Foreign Affairs Director-General of American and
Pacific Affairs, Nongnuth Phetcharatana called Charg this morning,
April 26, to report that the Minister of Interior signed an order
yesterday evening to repatriate the remaining six Shan hill tribe
TIP victims detained in Malaysia. The MFA also issued an
instruction to the Thai Embassy in Kuala Lumpur to start
repatriation immediately. Remaining tasks are to secure approval
from the Malaysian government to release the detainees and to
purchase flight tickets.
2. DPM Surakiart Sathirathai intervened several times on this case,
most recently during the last two weeks by raising the issue with
Interior Minister Kongsak Wanthana. Prior concerns in the Interior
Ministry about the legal validity of repatriating non-citizens to
Thailand posed a stumbling block, resulting in the detention of
these stateless hill tribe women since their February 2005 rescue
from a Malaysian brothel.
3. As expected, the MFA is curious as to how this repatriation will
affect Thailand\’s tier rating on the upcoming TIP report. LabOff
was noncommittal on the issue, but thanked them for their work,
which he assured them has resolved a longstanding concern about
Thailand\’s perceived commitment to combat trafficking. Post will
follow up as soon as the women have returned, and hopefully
interview them personally on their experiences.
ARVIZU
“
